Genesis - Gabriel Lies Down On Broadway

 Yep. 

 Sorry, was I supposed to be swayed into the Kansas camp by that?  I appreciate the cool clip Garion (I can't even master uploading my own pictures yet...!), but Kansas are just everything I hate about the prog genre.  They epitomise everything I try to play down when my contemporaries lay their boots into the genre for supposedly being pretentious and elitist.  But worse than this, I actually DO dislike it - it sounds vapid and stale - music for music's sake. Making a living rather than living the dream.  There's no passion in the voices, there's no feeling in the lyrics - its utter pretense, and it plays into the hands of those who think prog is worthless. For that, it should be demonised!

Sorry Garion, I cant even bring myself to listen to Magnum Opus again (which was the best track by a considerable distance).  Indeed, were it not for the considerable support they seem to get on this site, I would be calling for their dismissal from the Archives altogether.  Most of that album sounds like Lynard Skynard (is that how you spell it?)

Wrath_of_Ninian wrote:    Can you pop over and ask him why he wrote 'Sledgehammer'?

That's the best post this year!

Wrath_of_Ninian wrote:    Yep.   Sorry, was I supposed to be swayed into the Kansas camp by that?  I appreciate the cool clip Garion (I can't even master uploading my own pictures yet...!), but Kansas are just everything I hate about the prog genre.  They epitomise everything I try to play down when my contemporaries lay their boots into the genre for supposedly being pretentious and elitist.  But worse than this, I actually DO dislike it - it sounds vapid and stale - music for music's sake. Making a living rather than living the dream.  There's no passion in the voices, there's no feeling in the lyrics - its utter pretense, and it plays into the hands of those who think prog is worthless. For that, it should be demonised! Sorry Garion, I cant even bring myself to listen to Magnum Opus again (which was the best track by a considerable distance).  Indeed, were it not for the considerable support they seem to get on this site, I would be calling for their dismissal from the Archives altogether.  Most of that album sounds like Lynard Skynard (is that how you spell it?)

Actually that was a 9 and half minute song from them in 1975.  If you truely gave it a chance I will just say we agree to disagree.  Growing up in the 70's my big 4 were ELP Genesis Kansas and Yes followed closely by Jethro Tull .  But I agree about Styx. I could also apply some of your reasons about what you don't like about Kansas to Triumvarat. Cheers 

Garion81 wrote: Wrath_of_Ninian wrote:    Yep.    They epitomise everything I try to play down when my contemporaries lay their boots into the genre for supposedly being pretentious and elitist.  But worse than this, I actually DO dislike it - it sounds vapid and stale - music for music's sake. Making a living rather than living the dream.  There's no passion in the voices, there's no feeling in the lyrics - its utter pretense, and it plays into the hands of those who think prog is worthless. For that, it should be demonised!

I just thought of one more comment ,WoN. sorry

That clip I sent you had more than just the music involved in it. Kansas made no money until Leftoverature.  They were not even a headliner until late 1976.  That clip was a tape of a live performance on an American National TV show in late 1975 before the recording of Leftoverature.  Granted you may not like their music but if they are what you say they are i.e.  music to make a living, no passion, basically a formula driven band etc.  Why would they choose to play their most progressive song off of the album they were touring with (Masque) to present their music to 16 million viewers?  It doesn't make sense.  They had a few other hard rock songs if that was what they wanted to do.  They chose that one I sent and another prog song. Just thought I would point that out. It is a rap they have had(and you are not alone on this forum with your feelings) that does not fit them through 1979.  That's all.

I still think you would have gone to that Roxy show Ivan.

It may sound strange specially living in Perú, where good Concerts are not very common, and progheads go to everything they can.

In Lima I saw Jethro Tull (2 times), ELP, Yes, Jon Anderson (I felt asleep though), Rick Wakeman (2 times and even the famous concert that started a 1:00 am and ended near 5:00 am brecause his instruments ended in Paraguay), Kansas (With John Elefante, a band that wasn't really Kansas), Santana and must confess I even went to see Men at Work and Air Supply (My girlfriend insisted on this one).

But there are two concerts I refused to go one was Village People and the other one was Phil Collins, even when all my friends went.

Iván

Was just teasing my friend.

Now you tell me after I had to confess I went to see Air Supply and Men at Work

Thanks God i didn't went to see

Iván

Actually Garion...what song is Pinnacle off of...it is amazing...up there with Journey From Mariabronn........

I suppose I'll just look here in the Archives.

Hey Gdub, here is my list of top Kansas tracks not in order:

1. Miracles Out of Nowhere
2. Closet Chronicles
3. Portrait (He Knew)
4. Journey from Mariabronn
5. Song for America
6. Mysteries And Mayhem
7. Icarus Born on Wings Of Steel
8. The Pinnacle
9. The Wall
10. Lamplight Symphony
11. Opus Insert
12. Magnum Opus

Iván