Radiohead

Useful_Idiot wrote: Well, I've given my review of Ok Computer for you all to enjoy...

great review

hdfisch wrote: tuxon wrote: Good news for Certif1ed, Radiohead has been added to the site, making them Officialy Prog. Congratulations to all. And many thanks to Certif1ed who made such a great case for them Though feelings on Radiohead seemed to be inconclusive and appeared to lead to a stalemate - indesisive draw. Radiohead pulled it of to become one of the memorable additions to this site. no official response from Radiohead itself is made so far, but rumour goes they've got the corks off of the Bubblies. Knowing they'll be heading for obscurity we hearbye appologies to all not-prog fans of Radiohead, for dragging them into the realm of prog, from which there is no escape. A final quote from Radiohead frontman Thom York "They're all uptight, uptight, uptight, uptight, uptight, uptight."  I really don't support the idea to "make" RADIOHEAD a prog band because it IS just not one.So now there is a genre called "Psychedelic Alternative Rock" and they are listed as this plus PROGRESSIVE ROCK.So what?They are both or is it the same?Who will be the next: Oasis?Pulp?Muse?Franz Ferdinand?Robbie Williams?Maybe Britney,someone could try to discover some PROG elements in her music (or in her behavior). I don't say that RADIOHEAD is doing bad music, they are for sure much much better than all the artists I mentioned but in their genre and this is ALTERNATIVE ROCK!!!Nothing against this kind of music, I listened to it as well 5-10 years ago until I realized there are also bands existing in the 90s,not only in the 70s making good PROG.It's just because this kind of music is much more popular than PROG and less complex, easy to listen,not necessarily bad for these reasons but really f******* irrelevant to someone who is seriously interested in demanding and "pretentious" music. Sorry to say but IMHO the addition of Radiohead marks somehow the beginning of the end for the PROGARCHIVES.The site will end up in a general forum for ROCK MUSIC and will not deserve its name anymore in future and for me personally it will be not so much relevant and interesting anymore as it used to be.

Wow! I have to admit i'm surprised they got in but I wonder if you have really listened to Radiohead? How can you say that Kid A or Amnesiac is just ROCK! Radiohead is not easy listening in fact they are constantly accused of being pretentious! They push the boundries of electronica and rock combined,they are pasionate and complex,listen to Idioteque and Treefingers from Kid A and say that isnt innotive, every one of their albums are creative and intricate and their lyrics are meaningful set on a theme and evocative...bah i just love them! So maybe i'm biased ..

Ive been listening to Cluster all night ...hmmmm they really should get in too, DB maybe right...

Reed Lover wrote: Not only do you like Radiohead, but you keep mentioning the Texan t**ser! You got a thing for Dallas Cowboys?

I think he is quite amusing and he has a love of German bands, but saying that I have to read his posts about 4 times before I understand what he means, and even then i'm not entirely sure...

This is the picture of himself that he posted in the Rogues gallery Thread:

Haha ..what are you both doing up at 2am anyway??

Can't sleep?

Drooling over the Texan too eh?

Heh! Well in the words of Radiohead i'm gonna EXIT

You can laugh
A spineless laugh
We hope that your rules and wisdom choke you
Now we are one
In everlasting peace

We hope that you choke.. that you choke
We hope that you choke.. that you choke
We hope that you choke.. that you choke

G'night

tuxon wrote: Texan Words of Wisdom The Cowboys' Practical Philosophy There are three kinds of men -- The ones that learns by readin', the few who learns by observation, and the rest of 'em just have to piss on the electric fence for themselves.. When you give a lesson in meanness to a person or critter, don't be surprised if they learn the lesson. You can't make someone love you. All you can do is stalk 'em and hope they panic and give in. If you find yerself in a hole, the first thing to do is quit diggin' What ever they told you -- you are naked if you're wearin' nothin' but a hat. Never miss a good chance to shut up

Don't forget to  listen to both kinds of music country and western!

Chill on the DB bashing guys.

Radiohead should NOT be here in the Archives.

This site is losing its ingetrity by the day.

gdub411 wrote: Radiohead should NOT be here in the Archives. This site is losing its ingetrity by the day.

Utter nonsense.

If the Admins decide Radiohead are in, then they SHOULD be in.

This site has GAINED integrity by recognising that prog rock is not anything and everything that sounds like Yes, Genesis or King Crimson.

Bands that simply raid the back catalogue are simply NOT progressive - they are regressive; isn't that obvious? Plus ca change,

Bands that simply are made up of people that used to be in prog bands don't necessarily play prog music - agreed?

But bands that use REAL musicianship to push then envelope of music into interesting and new directions, ignore traditional song structures, chord progressions and lyrical content should at least be given a chance.

The Pink Floyd comparison is fair. There are similarities between OK Computer and DSOTM in non-obvious as well as obvious areas - but there are intelligent people on this site, so I'll let you work it out.

To say that OK Computer is "Indie" is rubbish; The term "Indie" means that the music is released on an independent label. Parlophone is NOT independent, TTBOMK. Otherwise the Beatles were Indie...

And to say that the style of music is "Indie" or "Alternative" (I know what the terms are commonly used to mean...) is not to have listened properly or given the music enough time to sink in. Like the best prog albums, OK Computer can take a while for the hidden agendas to sink in. One of the biggest problems it faces is that so many tracks have been released as singles by a record company hungry for profits, and it has sold huge numbers due to its accessibility.

These are not crimes, and the music is good and progressive.

There are other bands FAR less deserving in the archives, so for God's sake, give Radiohead a break - they probably don't want to be among proggers any more than some of you want them here. But the truth is that their music is among many styles that constitues modern day prog.

I find it VERY hard to accept Dream Theater as prog, when all they seem to do is recycle Metallica, Yes and Joe Satriani material. Their music is more metal than prog. GET THEM OUT!!!