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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Topic: Amnorphis... let's be fair Posted: November 18 2006 at 00:32 |
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Let's be fair, there are much less-progressive rock groups listed here than the finnish guys... they started as death metal, they changed, they PROGRESSED.... even in they website they recognize the prog influence!! I would give 20 reasons why they should be here but I'd like to see first what people think about this, (well, first of all, if anyone here KNOWS amorphis)....
Let's be fair.... Styx, Saga (whom i like) prog and ASmorphis not? DEATH is prog and amorphis not???? why, why.... Evergrey prog and amorphis not?? I like all those bands but the finnish are more prog, please...
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: November 18 2006 at 00:43 | |
I think Amorphis was rejected by the Prog Metal band.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 20556 |
Posted: November 18 2006 at 07:32 | |
Amorphis ... you're right, they progressed from one genre to another, but unfortunately neither of these genres had anything to do with Prog.
This year's album (Eclipse) is interesting though - I enjoy listening to it. |
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Tristan Mulders
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
Posted: November 18 2006 at 14:57 | |
I like the one album I have.. but it's not prog
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: November 18 2006 at 15:09 | |
I've heard three albums by this band, and if Elegy is of any indication of their progressive tendencies (the stuff preceeding that and the latest doesn't really qualifiy), then Amorphis are Prog-Related at best.
If you've still got other things to say aside from the invalid argument that they've progressed and the not-too-relevant "they consider themselves prog", I'll gladly take the information into account.
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The T
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 19:28 | |
Listen to Tuonela, Am Universum... those two have prog-elements... Hawkwind influences... folk lyrics, ethereal keyboards....
Man, IRON MAIDEN is in the site! DEATH!
Prog-related at least they are.... if only comparing them to some of the "prog-bands" that are listed....
No, long 20+ minute tracks they don't have.... I'm talking about the general sound.
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 18 2006 at 19:33 | |
Any way to send you some mp3?
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Bryan
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 14:02 | |
Eclipse is moderately proggy, I'll agree... I'm not sure if it warrants their inclusion on the site mind you, but maybe I just need to hear some of their other recent albums.
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tardis
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 14:08 | |
Hmm...if Iron Maiden gets included, then why not Amorphis, hmm?
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Bryan
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 18:23 | |
Can we stop with the meaningless "If band X gets included, why not band Y?" comparisons? |
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The T
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 21:56 | |
That;s a good point because if we keep including bands because another one was already included before, we'll end up including Papa roach....
But in this case is fair.... Listen to Tuonela and Am Universum.... Don't focus in their death metal past or their recent flawed album Eclipse.... Listen and agree....
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: November 20 2006 at 08:10 | |
Alright, I should hear the two albums you cite as the proggiest. Always wanted to anyway.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828 |
Posted: November 20 2006 at 08:22 | |
Without commenting should they be in or not: I listened "Am Universum" through, and it had some "psychedelic" or "trance" oriented sounds in it, bringing an association of heavy KINGSTON WALL to my ears. A record recommended for listeing for prog metal fans I believe!
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The T
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:16 | |
Thanks... That's all it takes... open mind.... then, after hearing, if they are still not-prog, ok, but I hope you'll agree.... I'm not saying they are ultra-prog... but they have prog-elements in their sound, and I think that alone entitles them for the inlcusion...
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The T
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:19 | |
If you ever agree to include Amorphis, I'll be more than happy to provide with anything needed... from biographies to finnish sandwiches made of cold iciy trout with a delicious lemon/grape gravy....
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avestin
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:31 | |
Nevermind prog or not, I love them and in particular the two albums Tales From The Thousand Lakes and Elegy which has My Kantele in doomdeath and acoustic versions and both are wonderful (my wife particularly likes the acousitc version). I less like their following releases, but still a good band.
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 10:43 | |
Haha... Replace "wife" with "mom" and you have my post, hahaha. [/micky] I feel like I have the same ears for heavy music as Assaf.
Sure, I'll check their later stuff out. Since you suggested them, it does seem obvious that you contribute a biography (otherwise, this wouldn't make much sense). But I guess you need at least four of five Prog-Metal team members to agree first, which is not an easy task.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 10:51 | |
Just a quick note....... The Prog Metal Team does not place priority on adding Prog Related bands(I personally will NEVER add a band to Prog related). If other members of the team feel the need to do so,fine.But that is on on individual basis,at the discretion of the Special Collaborators,and will have NOTHING to do with the PMT. |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 12:32 | |
I'm lost.... this looks like politics less than a simple progressive-rock forum!!! man, what a dissapointment.
But I'll keep on writing and posting, anyway it's great to be able to do so.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 13:16 | |
It has nothing to do with politics.
I just think priority should be placed on the addition of prog metal bands and not bands that have some proggy moments on a couple of albums. And I like Amorphis.I just don't think they are prog metal.And like I said,I don't concern myself with PR. |
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