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Topic: Jethro Tull compared to ... Posted: January 25 2005 at 00:26 |
Jethro Tull was the finest band I ever saw in concert.
Their "Thick as a Brick" concert in '72, and the "Passion Play" concert
the following year were/are beyond words. I also saw Led Zep in May 1973, and even with really great seats I'd say it was nothing compared to the Tull show.
Plant, Page & Co. were very predictable - they performed OK, just very predictable.
The only thing that really impressed me about seeing Zep was
1. Bonham's drum solo.
2. Their sound system was MASSIVE...[at least for 1973]
However, with Anderson & Co. , everyone was on the edge of their
seat the whole time wondering what they were gonna do next...
At one point, Anderson during a flute solo, starts barking like a dog
into the mike which was attached to an echo device. It was soooo cool.
Everyone just cracked up laughing.
They played every note and every gesture to perfection. Ian
Anderson & Co. gave me the impression that he really didn't take
this whole rock and roll thing all that seriously. Well, he
did...and yet...he didn't. He had a wonderful sense of humor during the
whole performance.
During the "Passion Play" concert in '73; right in the middle of the
show - I mean they are in the middle of an intense jam - a projection
screen gets lowered down from the ceiling and a movie begins to play
[hare lost his spectacles]...I mean the whole audience [1000's strong]
just freaked out...
Also, before the show - while all the house lights are still on - the
entire band acted as their own roadies...incognito. They almost
got away with it til someone in the audience noticed how strange it was
that all these "roadies" were wearing long trench coats with the
collars pulled up and broad brim hats covering their heads...
Jethro Tull - as far as I'm concerned - out played any other group I
saw from '69 -'75. Jeff Beck Group, Chicago, Santana, Three Dog
Night, Spirit, Alice Cooper, Robin Trower, James Gang, Canned Heat,
etc. etc.
Footnote: Black Sabbath was the worst show I ever saw...with the exception that Gentle Giant was the warm up band. Now they were also a terrific...
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 00:35 |
Cool story, Utah -- sincere thanks!
This forum needs more great posts like this on the front page!
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 00:51 |
That's fantastic!! Sometimes I really regret being only 18
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 00:52 |
Rob The Good wrote:
That's fantastic!! Sometimes I really regret being only 18 |
Sometimes I regret NOT being 18
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 01:06 |
Jethro came to Lima for second time in 1994 (I believe) because of the big success of their first concert.
This time Ian started to jump (as always) and then fell down, the wooden floor had broken and so his leg.
The guy instead of ending the concert (What would be normal and human), asked for a chair and continued playing even when his face showed the pain.
That is being a real Pro.
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 02:21 |
utah_man wrote:
<span style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">For what it's worth to whomever:</span> Jethro Tull was the finest band I ever saw in concert. Their "Thick as a Brick" concert in '72, and the "Passion Play" concert the following year were/are beyond words. I also saw Led Zep </span><span style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="RED">in May 1973, and even with really great seats I'd say it was nothing compared to the Tull show. Plant, Page & Co. were very predictable - they performed OK, just very predictable. The only thing that really impressed me about seeing Zep was 1. Bonham's drum solo. 2. Their sound system was MASSIVE...[at least for 1973] However, with Anderson & Co. , everyone was on the edge of their seat the whole time wondering what they were gonna do next... At one point, Anderson during a flute solo, starts barking like a dog into the mike which was attached to an echo device. It was soooo cool. Everyone just cracked up laughing. They played every note and every gesture to perfection. Ian Anderson & Co. gave me the impression that he really didn't take this whole rock and roll thing all that seriously. Well, he did...and yet...he didn't. He had a wonderful sense of humor during the whole performance. During the "Passion Play" concert in '73; right in the middle of the show - I mean they are in the middle of an intense jam - a projection screen gets lowered down from the ceiling and a movie begins to play [hare lost his spectacles]...I mean the whole audience [1000's strong] just freaked out... Also, before the show - while all the house lights are still on - the entire band acted as their own roadies...incognito. They almost got away with it til someone in the audience noticed how strange it was that all these "roadies" were wearing long trench coats with the collars pulled up and broad brim hats covering their heads... Jethro Tull - as far as I'm concerned - out played any other group I saw from '69 -'75 [Jeff Beck Group, Chicago, Santana, Three Dog Night, Spirit, Alice Cooper, Robin Trower, James Gang, Canned Heat, etc. etc. Footnote: Black Sabbath was the worst show I ever saw...<span style="font-style: italic;">with the exception</span> that Gentle Giant was the warm up band. Now they were also a terrific... My two cents... </span><span style="font-weight: bold;">Footnote #2 Ah, my memory starting to work again ...I also saw: Mountain, Deep Purple, The Guess Who, Blood Rock, Captain Beyond, Grand Funk Railroad... [i might add a 3rd footnote as memory serves me...] </span>
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 02:35 |
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Never followed the band very closely. Lead guitar player was/is Leslie West.
Nothing outstanding about the concert that I recall. Hard Rock Blues-Based sound of early 70's
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 03:00 |
ok thanks surely not as good as allman brothers
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 03:10 |
oliverstoned wrote:
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I think I saw them in concert too...Yea, I'd say they are better. They were popular due to the "twin lead guitar" sound.
Mountain, Allman Bros., Doobie Bros., and CCR, et. al - I think were/are all from the Southern United States.
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 03:14 |
Allman are amazing. There pieces often begin as basic blues rock, and then progress to psychedelic jam like the Dead. Their best labum: "Eat a peach"(1972) with the great piece "Mountain jam" which lasts more than 34mn!
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 10:14 |
almost nine years ago i saw tull in concert, it was a tad dissapointing, but hey they are getting pretty old. Ian's voice had given out by then, sad really.
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 10:53 |
Hangedman wrote:
almost nine years ago i saw tull in concert, it was a
tad dissapointing, but hey they are getting pretty old. Ian's voice had
given out by then, sad really. |
...getting old"...
Yea, no
doubt. Anderson was only 25 when I saw Tull. I was only 15 or
16. We both had lots of energy back then and more hair !!!
[In my heart I'm still young ]
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 12:04 |
Some additional comments...
1. Music Critics (I mean professional music critics/reviewers) would most likely not catagorize Zepp as a "Progressive Rock" musical group.
2. My comments in the initial post did not mean to sound as if the band was not any good at all in concert...
However, there is such a thing as "hype" and "overrating" - To a certain extent
much (not all) of what has transpired over the past 30+ years regarding
Led Zeppelin (as well as many, many other "legendary" groups) can be
attributed to this phenomena.
3. The older I've gotten, the more my musical tastes have varied.
When I saw the "Mighty Zepp" live and in person in '73, I thought:
"Wow...Led Zeppelin...there they are in the flesh..."
(Looking back, I now wish that they would have had an
extra guest guitarist during their live show. Also, Robert Plant
was a wee bit cocky on stage, and somewhat rude to the Salt Lake City
audience sitting in front of him....anyway...)
My point is: Your musical tastes will probably change
too. I no longer care for Led Zeppelin as a whole. Were
they my favorite band at one time...sure.
4. The music created by those bands whom we would all agree are
"definitively progressive" are the ones that I liked 35 years ago...and
still like today. NOT because of all the "hype", but because of their
outstanding musical giftedness, their phenomenal creativity. And
willingness to create extraordinary music even at the expense of making
more money and being more popular.
[All you Zepp fans, please don't view this as a Zepp bashing post...OK ?]
One cool thing Jimmy Page did in concert was to twist the
tuning key on his Les Paul to get that weird sound you hear on Black
Dog during the guitar solo - y'know, where the note seems to bend
downwards...
anyway...
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Posted: March 05 2005 at 19:50 |
Great stories utah_man. Enjoyed reading them! I got to see Tull for the Roots To Branches tour.
Awesome show!
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Posted: March 05 2005 at 21:58 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Jethro came to Lima for second time in 1994 (I believe) because of the big success of their first concert.
This time Ian started to jump (as always) and then fell down, the wooden floor had broken and so his leg.
The guy instead of ending the concert (What would be normal and
human), asked for a chair and continued playing even when his face
showed the pain.
That is being a real Pro.
Iván |
Not long after that I saw them in Washington D.C. Ian Anderson performed in a wheel chair. And he still couldn't keep still
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Posted: March 05 2005 at 22:04 |
I´ve seen Tull live 15 times and they´ve never disappointed me !!!
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Posted: March 06 2005 at 04:15 |
It must have been great to see Tull live in the 70's. From the videos
I've seen from Tull, Ian Anderson was always absolutely amazing on
stage. It is so wrong that I don't have the chance to see my favourite
bands live .
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Posted: March 06 2005 at 17:05 |
Tull have released some duff albums, but they always deliver on stage. I caught them first on the tour that was recorded for 'Bursting Out' and I still don't know just how Ian Anderson managed to engage directly with every single individual in the audience - Peter Gabriel is the only other performer I've seen pull this off at a large scale gig.
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Posted: March 06 2005 at 21:42 |
Wow, I thought this topic was buried, but thanks guys for your very kind comments & insights.
I hope I didn't come across to all you readers as if I was/am bragging or something...
I just thought that maybe other members might also remember seeing these bands live back then and share their experiences too.
Have a really great week, OK ?
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