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    Posted: January 07 2007 at 15:55
Well I've just heard some samples of SC and they seemed pretty fusion in a rocky way.... then I heard some of "I Wanna Play For You" and was quite dissapointed... but I think indeed he should be here.. what do you all think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 03:49
Sc is an excellent fusion musician , but I'd rather not see him included until some much more obvious inclusions have been taken care of.  Davis, Corea, Hancock,Coryell, Catherine etc...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 04:03
The Christmas fairies delivered a dvd to us, Jean Luc Ponty, Al Dimeola & Stanley Clarke live at Montreaux (1994)......flipping incredible, mesmerising and just totally awesome!
Stongly recomended to anyone interested in these musicians!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:47
thanks progchick^^^unfortunately in my country these DVDs will be hard to find... so I guess Amazon is the only logical choice, but shipping is another problem...
Anyway I think he deserves as much a place here as Chick Corea or Miles Davis... I don't know if Hancock should be here but I heard some of it and it sounds edgy... as for Miles there's a controversy, some even say he's not "fusion" (a statement which I strongly disagree with), although he takes more from funk rhythms undoubtely he's fusion.. I heard some of Chick Corea's Electrik Band and his album "Mad Hatter" and they sound "proggy", and though I heard more classical influences than rock on that last album I think it should be taken into consideration

   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2007 at 11:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2007 at 10:51
I had a fair few of these albums. The eponymous one, 'Journey To Love' and 'School Days' are definitely classics of jazz rock but 'I Wanna Play For You' verged on disco at times and 'If Only This Bass Could Talk' has that 80s sound to it that I personally dislike- too slick, imho. But yes definitely, those first few albums are jazz rock/fusion, imho.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2007 at 13:13
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had a fair few of these albums. The eponymous one, 'Journey To Love' and 'School Days' are definitely classics of jazz rock but 'I Wanna Play For You' verged on disco at times and 'If Only This Bass Could Talk' has that 80s sound to it that I personally dislike- too slick, imho. But yes definitely, those first few albums are jazz rock/fusion, imho.
 
Said it recently the second eponymously titled  Stanley Clarke album, is the best - a superb line-up with Hammer Williams and Connors - and I can forgive the thankful brief vocals about Vulcan princesses. The next few have the more explosive tunes but there is a point you wish Clarke would concentrate on sticking to a few styles of jazz, rather a different one per track.
 
Witha long list of jazz rockbands and  players we have, i wouldn't rush to post Clarke in the immediate future  but he'll probably get there some time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 03:40
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had a fair few of these albums. The eponymous one, 'Journey To Love' and 'School Days' are definitely classics of jazz rock but 'I Wanna Play For You' verged on disco at times and 'If Only This Bass Could Talk' has that 80s sound to it that I personally dislike- too slick, imho. But yes definitely, those first few albums are jazz rock/fusion, imho.
 
Wow! Salmacis. For perhaps the first time we are in total agreement on this.
My preference is his first, self-titled album.
 
The later George Duke/Stanley Clark releases are surprisingly weak, yet a live performance by the two was mindblowing. Without a backup band, they just improvised for a couple of hours, high energy, great stuff. I saw them in Germany in'81. Truly memorable and nothing like studio releases.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 13:28
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had a fair few of these albums. The eponymous one, 'Journey To Love' and 'School Days' are definitely classics of jazz rock but 'I Wanna Play For You' verged on disco at times and 'If Only This Bass Could Talk' has that 80s sound to it that I personally dislike- too slick, imho. But yes definitely, those first few albums are jazz rock/fusion, imho.

 

Said it recently the second eponymously titled  Stanley Clarke album, is the best - a superb line-up with Hammer Williams and Connors - and I can forgive the thankful brief vocals about Vulcan princesses. The next few have the more explosive tunes but there is a point you wish Clarke would concentrate on sticking to a few styles of jazz, rather a different one per track.

 

Witha long list of jazz rockbands and  players we have, i wouldn't rush to post Clarke in the immediate future  but he'll probably get there some time

    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2007 at 08:13
Originally posted by S Lang S Lang wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had a fair few of these albums. The eponymous one, 'Journey To Love' and 'School Days' are definitely classics of jazz rock but 'I Wanna Play For You' verged on disco at times and 'If Only This Bass Could Talk' has that 80s sound to it that I personally dislike- too slick, imho. But yes definitely, those first few albums are jazz rock/fusion, imho.
 
Wow! Salmacis. For perhaps the first time we are in total agreement on this.
My preference is his first, self-titled album.
 
The later George Duke/Stanley Clark releases are surprisingly weak, yet a live performance by the two was mindblowing. Without a backup band, they just improvised for a couple of hours, high energy, great stuff. I saw them in Germany in'81. Truly memorable and nothing like studio releases.
 
Check out the early solo albums (not including the very first BASF release) by George Duke where Clarke guests on some of each albums e.g. Reach For It, (released in UK on Epic) - sexually explicit at times but great rauchy jazz funk, and superior performances by both Duke & Clarke. Perhaps the compilation:
 
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has some of the better collaborations?
If the first George Duke/Stanley Clarke duo album is anything to go by, they had done their best stuff earlier. Clarke seemed to have guested on a lot of mid 70's jazz fusion albums; I particularly like the contributions on a couple of Airto (Moriera) records originally released on CTI, but now part of a compilation on a Columbia Jazz Remasters (cheapo - at least was when I bought it!)  CD.
 
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