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    Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:24
Should "Prog Related" and "Proto Prog" be on "Prog Archives" as reference only categories, and not be included in the reviews and top ratings lists? Or should they stay as they are?

I say as reference only,after all they are not genres of music. They make the site too watered down. You come to the site and what do you see on the home page? Led Zepplin or the Beatles? Even though "Prog Archives" isn't claiming that these are prog the casual visitor may not pick up on that.
Or maybe we should go one step further and include another category called "Prog Opposite" and include everything that is absolutely not prog.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:32
I'm moving this poll to the Help Improve the Site section, as this is where it belongs.

As to your question... What do you mean by 'Prog Opposite'?Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:32
Yeah, sometimes is.. uh.. strange to see on the homepage so much Doors, Zep or Queen reviews. You might be.. yeah.. right Thumbs Up
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:42

I say we return to the categorizations of day one on this site.

And that includes getting rid of "prog metal" which to me is a contradiction in terms.
 
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Oh really, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:43
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

I say we return to the categorizations of day one on this site.


And that includes getting rid of "prog metal" which to me is a contradiction in terms.

 

Yeah, that's right, you heard me...

 

Oh really, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...

 

Whoa...are you sayin' you want a piece of me?

 

Well, I got news for you, metalhead, I could drop you like a sack of dirt...so if you want to start something, just try me, just try me, because I would LOVE to take it outside and slam that flying V right upside your head...


i don't really get what you mean
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:46
Deja-vu... I suggest (again) that proto and related issues to be drawn from the ratings count (and consequently from the top 100), and also their links to be drawn out of the "prog sub-genres" menu from the home page, in order to have their own dedicated sub-menu (with various listing types of menus, definition pages, top 50, etc...) This would help the site and these categories both at the same time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:46
I just goofing around...sorry, Smile... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
 
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing...


Edited by bluetailfly - January 22 2007 at 10:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:12
I would vote "Be listed as reference only".. If I could vote. Confused "You can not vote in this poll". OK then. Especially "Proto-Prog" and why not "Prog Related" too are a nice feature, but these items shouldn't be on the first page nor in the top lists, or they should have own lists or something IMO.
 
Edit: Voting problem solved...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:16
my two cents has always been.. let them have their reviews.. let the main page be for prog albums only. Sure that would only involve some tweaking of the program.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:17

I think the home page should show only the "true" prog bands, and that there should be a door or a sign icon that points users to the alleyway that displays the message "Servants Entrance" that would allow users into proto-prog or prog-related band review...Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:22
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

I just goofing around...sorry, Smile... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
 
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing...


Next time, please, when you are 'goofing around', add an emoticon as the site rules point out. Your post might very well cause offense to those people who like metal and don't like to be depicted as morons - even in jest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:23
I can see maybe moving the poll, but why did you take away the ability to vote? I wanted to see what the opinion of the PA community was quantified in votes. After all its still a poll, maybe you should move it back.
As far as 'Prog Opposite' thats just sarcasm
       
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:25
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

I just goofing around...sorry, Smile... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
 
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing...


Next time, please, when you are 'goofing around', add an emoticon as the site rules point out. Your post might very well cause offense to those people who like metal and don't like to be depicted as morons - even in jest.


hahahha yes.. even the acne-scarred masses have feelings too LOLWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:25
Originally posted by cmidkiff cmidkiff wrote:

I can see maybe moving the poll, but why did you take away the ability to vote? I wanted to see what the opinion of the PA community was quantified in votes. After all its still a poll, maybe you should move it back.
As far as 'Prog Opposite' thats just sarcasm
       

my assumption is after the thread was moved, you can't vote for a while
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:29
It is good the way they are.

The owners want everything to be possible to review.
Who really cares about the useless top 100 list?

So this is the point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:31
Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

Who really cares about the useless top 100 list?


If nobody cared, it wouldn't have been there.

Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

So this is the point.


If it was so simple, there wouldn't be all those bitter arguments regarding these categories and the respective bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:34
i dont' think that the top 100 list is useless as well. about the proto prog and prog-related, i think the way they are now is good enough for me. after all this site is about the ultimate discography of prog, so everything about prog could go on the front page
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:34
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

I just goofing around...sorry, Smile... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
 
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing...


Next time, please, when you are 'goofing around', add an emoticon as the site rules point out. Your post might very well cause offense to those people who like metal and don't like to be depicted as morons - even in jest.
 
Sorry...and for the record it wasn't my intention to depict metalheads as morons, just justifiably upset at someone who would claim that "prog metal" is a contradiction in terms...Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:38
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

Who really cares about the useless top 100 list?
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:


If nobody cared, it wouldn't have been there.





The top 100 list was discussed many times and the conclusion reached is that the list doesn't have problems because people complain about it for some time and then forget it.

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

So this is the point.


If it was so simple, there wouldn't be all those bitter arguments regarding these categories and the respective bands.


These arguments are very old, but nothing has changed because it seems quite good to those who rule the site.

Those dissatisfied can ignore the bands or use another site.


Edited by akin - January 22 2007 at 11:41
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:41
Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by cmidkiff cmidkiff wrote:

I can see maybe moving the poll, but why did you take away the ability to vote? I wanted to see what the opinion of the PA community was quantified in votes. After all its still a poll, maybe you should move it back.
As far as 'Prog Opposite' thats just sarcasm
       

my assumption is after the thread was moved, you can't vote for a while


I don't think you'll have the ability to vote at all now, and a vote would have been nice and seen by more on the home page.    
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