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sheeves
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Topic: Album Beginnings Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:08 |
I feel that most classic albums open with a mini-epic such as the Musical Box, and that's how they should open. What do you think?
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endlessepic
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:12 |
I agree totally. Although many things work..the mini epic is really nice!
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Chris H
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:15 |
Can't beat that mini-epic!
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Walker
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:20 |
I like albums to open with a short-ish instrumental as an overture of sorts. Doesn't have to be fast (in fact its better if its not), so I voted other.,
Edited by Walker - February 13 2007 at 22:20
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:21 |
Mini Epic and slow medium intro work best.
I think the best opening mini epic has to be Dancing With The Moonlit Knight, which happens to start off slowly and softly. The combination of these 2 styles seems to be highly effective
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:27 |
It doesn't matter to me, so long as the music's good.
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soundsweird
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:45 |
How ridiculous to think that there's just one good way to open an album......
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Bravo
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:59 |
Any way the artist wants to start it out.
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:40 |
Why wouldn't it range from album to album?
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Fassbinder
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:25 |
Obviously, there's no importance at all in how the album begins.
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:26 |
An instrumental theme, calmed and slow
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The T
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 01:52 |
The problem really is not how it starts... but how you feel about the album when it ends... so I don't care how it starts as long as what lies after that beginning is great. Too many albums start great and go the downhill path...
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kazansky
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 01:59 |
true, but there're some people who seek for a good first impression. so the album starter is quite important actually, but then, every part in an album is important i think and i don't think that there should be a typical opening for all album. what i mean is, don't you want a variation on each album ?
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 02:17 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
Mini Epic and slow medium intro work best.
I think the best opening mini epic has to be Dancing With The Moonlit Knight, which happens to start off slowly and softly. The combination of these 2 styles seems to be highly effective |
Well, that's the style that worked for Gabriel Genesis and in General for every Prog Genesis album except ATOTT:
1.- Trespass: Looking for Someone (7:06)
2.- Nursery Cryme: The Musical Box (10:24)
3.- Foxtrot: Watcher of the Skies (7.19)
4.- SEBTP: Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (8:01)
5.- The Lamb: The Lamb (4:50)
6.- ATOTT: Dance on a Volcano (5:53)
7.- W&W: Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:41)
This doesn't mean all bands had to work like this, Genesis was more structured in this aspect, thet used to set the things and the atmosphere in the first track, except in ATOTT where the opener is darker than the rest of the album and the closer to Gabriel era.
Iván
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progismylife
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 02:22 |
I think a good instrumental piece would be good, not an instrumental song - but that can be good as well. I think the mini-epic should be further into the album like song 3 or 4.
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theBox
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 06:24 |
tried and tested formula....mini epic at the start and 25-30 minute
epic at the end. Seriously though, it doesn't matter in the least how
an album starts as long as it contains that obligatory loooong epic
somewhere!!!
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laplace
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 06:35 |
In my experience, classic albums begin either with a short piece played on a kalimba (marimba?) or with these words: Out of town, my work takes me out of town... ;)
Edited by laplace - February 14 2007 at 06:35
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andu
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 06:45 |
A slowly groweing (and not too long) piece developing a main thing is the way some of my favourite albums. I think that fits option no.4 .
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Hatters
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 06:46 |
I don't think it matters as long as it is a good start.
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micky
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Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:04 |
I voted other...
something memorable... look to our friends in RPI for tons of examples
the haunting vocals of YS
the melotron of Per Un Amico
the choral vocals of L'Islola di Niente
the street sounds of Naples of Palepoli
and so on and so on...
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