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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 09:09
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

The Great Nothing is quite an adequate title for that Spock's Beard epic. It's not bad but it does very little to me.
Bands with lots of growling are not my cup of tea.


I agree!
Ditto for The healing colors of sound

The only good suites by Spock's Beard are The Water and most of all A flash before my eyes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 07:05
Originally posted by John Gargo John Gargo wrote:

For good prog-metal, see: Psychotic Waltz, Pain of Salvation, Fates Warning etc. etc.

I second to that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 07:03

The Great Nothing is quite an adequate title for that Spock's Beard epic. It's not bad but it does very little to me.

Bands with lots of growling are not my cup of tea.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 05:00

Originally posted by jonali jonali wrote:

Rush: 2112 (Awful! Cheesy metal with annoying, over the top, vocals. The title epic does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Echoes, Supper's Ready, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Shine On You Crazy Diamond or Tarkus.  

    


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 04:19

Some disappointing records

Soft Machinine: Two (their first is much better)

Amon Düül 2: Yeti (Tanz der Lemminge is much better, and Wolf City is positively great)

ELP: Works vol. 1

Roger Waters: Radio KAOS, The Wall Live in Berlin

Pink Floyd: Delicate Sound of Thunder

Jethro Tull: A Passion Play, Warchild, Too Old to Rock'n Roll Too Young to Die

Yes: Tormato, Drama

Genesis: Abacab (Duke isn't much to write home about either, though I like "Genesis")

Rush: 2112 (Awful! Cheesy metal with annoying, over the top, vocals. The title epic does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Echoes, Supper's Ready, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Shine On You Crazy Diamond or Tarkus.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 03:12
I don't dig fusion and basically all improvisation-based music, no matter how shiny and technically gifted the people involved in are.

And I don't like the mere show of technical ability as well (the main defendant here is Mr. Keith Emerson...so sweet when restrained into canonic boundaries - take the solos in From the beginning for instance, or the wonderful rendition of Canario - but so annoying and boring when he goes wild with Hammond-riding or produces nauseating caterwauls with that wicked "Electric clavinet")

Talking about bands, I am somehow cold towards Soft Machine, Colosseum, Mahavishnu and the like.
I find Magma interesting but I can't stand Can...
I love bands like Angra, Dream Theater, Threshold, Ayreon, but I really can't get into Shadow Gallery...they simply have NO appeal on me at all. I cannot remember one single song of all their works!
That said, I very much appreciated Mike Baker's rendition of "Father" in Ayreon's Day 16: Loser
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 15:15
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i have most of the albums in the PROG ARCHIVES top 100 review list, though the following bands have never or will ever appeal to me:

CAMEL  or any "canterbury" drippy hippy scene bands. music for elevators and supermarkets.Ouch

SOFT MACHINE  never really understood what was going on here at all!  a-b-c-d... etc. ??? Confused



Camel aren't Canterbury (I question why you didn't include Soft Machine under your "Canterbury" umbrella) and Canterbury doesn't sound like music for supermarkets. I think you're referring to John Tesh or Kenny G, maybe even Yanni and the Eagles, but surely no Canterbury artists. I wish my supermarket would play Soft Machine or Gong!

I just wonder how many Canterbury albums and artists you've actually heard.  Surely, some musicians like Karl Jenkins, have done new age I guess you could consider elevator music, but his solo career isn't Prog, if anything Canterbury-related, only because he was involved in Soft Machine (and Nucles before that).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:25

And the winner is......RUSH!!!!....tried, but I gave up trying to enjoy listening to that bloody witch screaming like a 2 years old girl.

Magma, but I recognise haven't done an important effort to get into their music, or maybe their music is too much for me!!

Dream Theatre, not a terrible band, but a highly overated one. There are many prog metal bands out there, like Threshold, who are far better than them , but I can still enjoy bits of their music.

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 12:13

i have most of the albums in the PROG ARCHIVES top 100 review list, though the following bands have never or will ever appeal to me:

CAMEL  or any "canterbury" drippy hippy scene bands. music for elevators and supermarkets.Ouch

SOFT MACHINE  never really understood what was going on here at all!  a-b-c-d... etc. ??? Confused

VDGG "theme one" is a masterpiece to me, but not the albums. sorry guys, i  tried REALLY HARD to like these!Cry

MEATLOAF  just sounds like a mess, a caricature (non-prog/metal people like this guy for some reason!)Angry

MASTERMIND  i listened to all these albums and they just sound amateurishEmbarrassed

GENTLE GIANT  can't bear to listen to this group for a minuteDead

FRANK ZAPPA  "hot rats" is brilliant but the rest of these albums sound like somebody left the tape running and they're messing about!! brilliant musicianship nonetheless.Smile

so there you go - one man's meat is another man's poison! though i still believe there is no such thing as bad music, as there's always someone that will like it !Wink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:57
guess there's only two to be named: one band I used to love: Pink Floyd and one I'd never get into: Dream Theatre and the whole progressive metal thing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:40
I've just got a Renaissance album (Scheherazade And Other Stories) and I
can't get into it at all

I don't see the appeal of early Camel but I really liked their 1981 album
Nude.

I've only heard two Frank Zappa albums: Hot Rats which did nothing for
me, and We're Only In It For The Money which came across like an
unfunny joke.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:54
Marillion, for being fakers 
Epic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:46

Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

UFO's second album is prog and is really boring.


Really??? I'd heard great things about it ... apparently it contains one of the earliest 30 minute songs in rock ... Flying if I've not mistaken?

I've still never heard the Mick Bolton-driven incarnation of UFO ... only the hard rock Michael Schenker one ...

Great things about this album? Well, there you have it, I suppose it is possible to like this album...

Yes, there's a 30 minute suite there, and it's probably this album's biggest flaw. The suite (and the rest of the album, too) is filled with Bolton's quarter-baked attempts at creating sort of a space-rock feel, sparse, slightly tripped-out guitar phrasing, a little like Syd Barrett on "Piper...". I think he fails miserably, his meanderings lead nowhere; boring like hell. The other musicians aren't doing anything decent, either. Schenker is a much better guitar player than Bolton, even though his style is completely different.     

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 11:36
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

UFO's second album is prog and is really boring.


Really??? I'd heard great things about it ... apparently it contains one of the earliest 30 minute songs in rock ... Flying if I've not mistaken?

I've still never heard the Mick Bolton-driven incarnation of UFO ... only the hard rock Michael Schenker one ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 10:43

Dream theater: great music, but tends to get a little friggin' boring

Progmetal in general is a little over the top for me.

 

In most bands or styles I find something sweet

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 10:11

Progressive metal bands that simply copy Dream Theater's sound... There are so many innovating and exciting progressive metal bands out there, that these boring and insipid retreads serve only to give prog metal a bad name.

For good prog-metal, see: Psychotic Waltz, Pain of Salvation, Fates Warning etc. etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 09:47
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

I cannot get into the following:

Jethro Tull (cringe music extraordinaire,hey nonny-nonny-aw forget it!)

 

What utter rubbish! Have you ever actually listened to them?

Did you read all my post? I think not. I said I own enough albums by these groups to form an opinion.

Trouserpress how can you say my opinion of my tastes is rubbish?

I am being restrained here-your post is ahem stupid!Angry



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 09:44

Bands as Flower Kings and Spock's Beard that repeat themselves

Neo prog bands that try to sound like Genesis without inspiration

Dream Theater

Most of RIO bands (interesting but not my cup of tea)

Il Balletto di Bronzo (a classic but too noisy)

Deus Ex Machina (crazy energy plus screams).

Monster bands during 80s (Genesis, Yes) are not included due their non-prog condition.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 09:30

I think that yes , you are right Styx is often bad-mouthed here in the Archives and I take some (but not that much , either) of that blame on me. Fact is that Paradise Theater (to a lesser extent) ,  Mr. Lobotto and Babe are highly laughable and hurt them deeply in the eyes of progheads.

 

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