Magma's Vander or Death's Schuldiner?

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This may look rather ridiculous, but...

Two bands and musicians that are considered innovative and influential in the development of progressive music scenes from different musical backgrounds.

Both bands are hailed by some as very important in pushing the
boundaries of  music, and both bands
might be considered extreme in their own ways (those who primarily
enjoy Menudo, beware!).

Magma and Death are credited by people as integral in the formation of
new subgenres, and are considered by many as important to the
expansion of the Prog scene.  Both were influential and both played a part
in the development of Prog in the forms we've come to know it.   Both had big line-up changes, but the founders, drummer Vander, and guitarist Schuldiner, remained throughout.

Quotes lifted from the band' bio pages at this site.

 Led by
classically-trained drummer Christian VANDER, MAGMA helped to create a
whole genre of music (nicknamed "Zeuhl" after the unique MAGMA
language). Their music combined elements of jazz, opera, minimalism and
20th century classical music, yet emotionally rich and undeniably
powerful sound that eventually brought on the ZEUHL sub-genre of
progressive rock. Incredible and intense! This band was as a real
source for many French musicians. Some players were more influential
than others, but with each change in personnel came a slight change in
the sound of the band...

"
 Chuck
Schuldiner founded Death in the early 80s as an extreme metal band, not
knowing that in the years to come the band would be celebrated by many
as the band which created the genre of Death Metal. During the years
the lineup changed frequently, with Schuldiner as the constant element.
Their music got more and more complex in the 90s, and their last
releases Individual Thought Patterns, Symbolic and The Sound of
Perseverance are the reason for their inclusion in the archives. The
music on these albums is what is today often referred to as
"Progressive Death Metal", and it influenced many other bands in the
following years which further explored the possibilities of this new
kind of music....

From wikipedia:

 Charles Michael "Chuck" Schuldiner  was a American musician and genre innovator. He is best known for being the founder, singer, rhythm/lead guitar player and main songwriter of Death, which he founded in 1983 as Mantas and was one of the first bands of the death metal genre

The band Death's founder Chuck Schuldiner
helped push the boundaries of uncompromising speed and technical
virtuosity, mixing in highly technical and intricate rhythm guitar work
with complex arrangements and emotive guitar solos...

 Vander is known both for his unique songwriting and his virtuosic drumming.
His compositions fuse jazz, rock, classical and opera influences, and
draw on the work of musicians as diverse as John Coltrane and Carl Orff. Vander's music is broadly classified as Progressive Rock,
but the style is so unique that it falls under its own category....

Now I know that Magma is generally more lauded here than Death, and Vander as a musician/ composer gets far more attention, but who do you consider the greater innovator from a progressive music (and when I say progressive I don't just mean Prog but generally) standpoint, Vander or Schuldiner?  Or are they both equally innovative and creative in their own ways?

Very late edit which I resisted before, since for some reason I missed the c in Schuldiner in the title and poll option.

Edited by Logan - June 19 2011 at 17:45

Poll Question: Who is the greater innovator in your opinion?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Vander	38	[56.72%]
Schuldiner	13	[19.40%]
both equally innovative in their own ways	7	[10.45%]
neither are as innovative as, say, Ricky Martin	4	[5.97%]
what an odd poll	5	[7.46%]
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