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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 07:58
Bill Bruford Thumbs%20Upof course
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:08
From the list Bill Bruford.  Not on the list Carl Palmer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:13
Bill Bruford. And Phil Collins as a second one: one of the most creative drummers and PERCUSSIONIST I know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:27
Bruford! And if you think he doesn't rock, just listen to "Red", "Larks Tongues Pt. 2" and "Sleepless"!

P.S. Much as I love him, he did play on one (and only one!) dud album: AWBH Live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:50
Originally posted by Joseth On Kings Joseth On Kings wrote:

He does have some prog in him but he's not a combination of both, have you heard his drum solo's on youtube they're all jazz!!!
 
 


Modern jazz is a mostly a very progressive genre (in my oppinion that is). Prog-jazz (jazzrock/fusion) is especially  related to other prog-rock genres and I find he's more between prog-jazz and other prog-genres, meaning he sometimes has played 'evolved' jazz  and sometimes more classical progressive music but always prog (in my eyes). By my definition progressive music is 'more developed' and 'evolved' music meaning that a higher level of complication of structures characterises the music. Most of modern jazz falls in my oppinion under the definition of 'proggish'-jazz, because the progression of it and because it is, well, more Tongueevolved.

But coming to the subject and the poll, I find it really difficult to choose between Peart, Portnoy (quite much agree on your view about Portnoy, Joseth) and  Bruford.

It's got to be Bruford  for me though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:52
Originally posted by Keppa4v Keppa4v wrote:

I love Neil, Mike and Bill pretty equally... Can't really decide, but if I had to, I'd say Portnoy, 'cause he was my first drum god ever.


I relate to this oppinion, but still would say Bruford, he's just incredible...The past days I have been playing ''Red'' again and whoa! what a fantastic album and great drumming on it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 08:55
Originally posted by Atomic_R<wbr>ooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

I would assume he means Martin Lopez (Mendez plays the bass) of Opeth, which must be embarrassing for someone with an Opeth sig.

EDIT: ok, so Bruford has a jazzy style, that doesn't make him any less "prog".  Also, proggy drumming isn't anything in particular, but drumming that goes along with prog music.  There is nothing definite about it; sure, many famous prog bands were characterized by many time sig changes and syncopation/polyrhythms, but they aren't in every prog song.  Bruford does all of those things, a lot.  So how is he not proggy (are you suggesting that we not allow for jazz rock/fusion drummers like Cobham, who is AMAZING)?

not every drummer has to sound alike


I agree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 09:16
It is difficult to choose between Peart and Bruford. These two are the best on the list by far IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 09:18
Bruford or Portnoy, Depends on the mood
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 09:23
Probably Bruford out of the ones you list. Phil Collins is underrated though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 10:14
Bruford, I am going to make a modern drummers poll soon just fyi. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 10:21

This isn't really a poll so I am moving it to the Prog Lounge.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 10:38
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Bill Bruford Thumbs%20Upof course
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 10:48
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Easily Bill Bruford.  He's very interesting, does some great polyrhythmic beats and I don't think he's ever done a bad recording.

You`re forgetting that album by Absolute Everywhere from the television special In Search of Ancient Gods back in the mid seventies. A guy reviewed it here the other day and more or less hit the nail on the head by giving it one star.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 10:58
I have to go with my first love, the professor all the way!!!!  Like all of you said, they are all great but Neil was the first to truely inspire me..   FEEL THE RUSH...2 more weeks till the start of the tour!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 11:15
Portnoy.  Why?  Because he never ceases to amaze me and his work with Neal Morse shows that he's not just a metal drummer.  He can play any style fluently and that versatility puts him at the top in my book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 11:38
Bruford is a God. In my opinion his ability to improvise sets him apart from the rest.

Portnoy - even though I don't like DT, his side projects show his versatility, restraint, and talent. I agree that he has surpassed Peart .

Peart - inspired probably more drummers than any on the list, and my first drum idol. For my current taste, he is too mechanic, and his 20+ year solo... c'mon.

White and Collins don't belong on this list; Gavin Harrison and Carl Palmer do, and IMO, Harrison's work is as good as any. He is showcased heavily in FoaBP.

Let's agree that both Portnoy and Harrison are standing on giants' shoulders
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 11:55
1. Neil Peart - Has inspired me more than any other human being on the planet
2. Bill Bruford - Simply put: he's amazing. Original and talented.
3. Phil Collins - Restrained and interesting, I like him a lot.
4. Alan White - A worthy replacement for Bruford
5. Mike Portnoy - I hope I don't get too much flak for saying this, but he's vastly overrated, IMO. Nothing I've heard from him has ever really jumped out at me, and his solos tend to be fairly sloppy

My own addition to the list would have to be Danny Carey.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 12:00
Well, welcome joseth on kingsHug
 
I will choose Bruford, but palmer and portney are right up there. Brufords jazzy style completes the Yes and Crimson sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 12:18

 best drummer

 

Symphonic Prog : Bruford no contest it's  the jazz thing Yes was never the same after he left

 
Metal Prog: Portnoy no question  he anchors the DTsound  and no disrespect to the other but DT would not exit  if it was not for him.
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