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avestin
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Posted: June 01 2007 at 23:03 | ||
Try this:
(not suggesting this is prog, it's "slightly" different than what you hear everyday, and might interest you).
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BroSpence
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 02:07 | ||
He is THE man. |
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 02:16 | ||
I'll have to remember that name then, and look out for his material. |
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philippe
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 04:29 | ||
Afro jazz with progressive, eastern or funkadelic influences as Codona, Black Merda, Brother Ah, Roland P Young
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dwill123
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 08:29 | ||
Sun Ra |
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blazno
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 11:09 | ||
Maybe Tinariwen, a mix of rock, traditional Berber music and a little bit of jazz.
I maybe mistaken but didn't Ginger Baker have a couple of African drummers on board in Air Force. off topic: Why aren't they on PA? |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: June 02 2007 at 14:25 | ||
Make the case for GB's Airforce. Reebop Kwaku Baah was an in demand percussionist in the early 70's. He was with Airforce, the member of the reformed Traffic (Welcome To The Canteen) - one website tells me he was with Can briefly. He recorded at least one solo album under his own name, Melodies In A Jungle Mans Head through Jonas Hellborg's label DEM. |
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The Rock
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 02:53 | ||
Duncan Makay was a keyboardist who worked amongst others with Kate Bush,Alan Parsons and Camel,he also released a few albums on his own.His style I would describe is classical prog a la ELP.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 03:03 | ||
He's Avant Jazz not afro prog from what I've heard, some african influence but also Chinese, not Afro Prog, but he does have his proggy moments in Space is the Place. Edited by Cheesecakemouse - June 03 2007 at 03:03 |
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Joolz
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 03:40 | ||
Re: Tinariwen, Fela Kuti .... etc
It depends how you define your Prog. You won't find too many complex 'Prog' structures in African music. Some styles employ time signature changes during songs, but these tend to be defined by the style rather than any inherent progressiveness. If you are looking for progressive artists then you are looking at a rich seam of talent .... inventive and groundbreaking, blending native African styles with Rock, Jazz, Rumba, Blues, Rap etc Salif Keita Baaba Maal Youssou N'Dour Fela Kuti Franco The Rail Band Angelique Kidjo and a great many more |
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The Whistler
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 03:41 | ||
True, but you can't deny the hat. That's some pretty progressive headwear.
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clarke2001
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 12:21 | ||
There's loads of good music from Africa....maybe not exactly prog, but certainly a nice blend of musical styles...
For anyone interested in African or African-influence music check the artist Joolz listed, they're all highly recommended indeed!! If anyone is interested in some nice mixture of African music and blues, this one is a must: Ali Farka Toure & Ry Cooder: Talking Timbuktu And if anyone is interested in Western artists' works influenced by Africa, this is the ultimate masterpiece! (sorry Peter Gabriel fans!) And speaking of some prog from Africa...well, Freddie Mercury was an African-born, right? Actually, all prog rock is from that continent...because the entire human kind originated from Africa million of years ago... |
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verslibre
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 13:20 | ||
Good stuff, too. Too bad it's all out of print. |
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fuxi
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Posted: June 04 2007 at 14:19 | ||
I always thought Salif Keita (one of Mali's greatest singers) sounded prog. Perhaps this was just because he has worked with Joe Zawinul. But just listen what he had to say in last Friday's INDEPENDENT newspaper (U.K.):
MY FAVOURITE RECORD IS... "Wish you were here" by Pink Floyd. Especially the nine-part composition 'Shine on you crazy diamond'. People are usually surprised when I tell them that I feel very close to the music of Pink Floyd. It's true though. I'D LOVE TO PERFORM WITH... Phil Collins. I have as much respect for the music as for the man. --- Now what do you make of THAT, Phil-bashers? For the sake of completeness, I ought to add that the one song Keita wishes he'd written is 'Hotel California'. Now smoke THAT! Edited by fuxi - June 04 2007 at 14:20 |
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Peter
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Posted: June 04 2007 at 16:17 | ||
As Joolz suggested, it really depends upon how you define "prog." If you mean "are there African bands that make music which sounds like classic English/Euro progressive rock," the answer is "NO, not to my knowledge."
If, however, you mean, "is there any good small-p "progressive" music made in Africa, adding modern instrumentation and diverse musical elements and influences to traditional, indigenous forms," the answer is a resounding "YES -- tons of it!"
I like Papa Wemba, King Sunny Ade, Manu Dibango, Youssou N'dour, etc, etc.
Does that music belong here? Not in my opinion. Such stuff is loosely categorized as "world" music, and that's a VAST area (basically, all non-Western music). Edited by Peter - June 04 2007 at 16:21 |
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Joolz
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 08:23 | ||
You sound like a Salif Keita fan! It was his song 'Souareba' that first turned me on to African music back in the mid-80s.
Ah, but Peter, don't we already have some categories that us old Progsters have difficulty with? It may not be Prog as we knew it, but in modern PA terms, I think African Prog would sit very well with some of the sub-genres here. |
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Peter
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:57 | ||
My point is that such an articial, subjective "genre" would be HUGE, and could not be fairly limited to Africa. Small-p "progressive" music is made all over the world -- art does not remain static. Geographical/cultural artforms "communicate," cross-fertilize, overlap, intertwine and mutate.
Again, we'd risk making "prog" even more synonymous with merely "good," "different" or "original."
Massive can o' worms, IMO!
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