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Points: 2614 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2007 at 21:05
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Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

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I love the Peter Green era because the band created incredible music.  Then they made some good stuff after his departure, but not nearly as classic.  Then the evil duo Nicks and Buckingham joined and destroyed a perfectly good band.  I did enjoy most of Tusk, but Rumors is awwwwful.  I don't see whats so great about an over produced bunch of annoying pop songs that aren't even that interesting.  Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  
Wow. To me, Tusk sounds just like Rumours, only less concentrated. :)
And seriously, if Rumours is a bunch of over-produced pop songs, then what is Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band? :)


An experimental sonic masterpiece.
I agree, Sgt. Pepper is great, but it still sounds very "produced", wouldn't you agree?
No, i think that you're just going through what i went through when i thought the Beatles were "crap" (a long time ago, and i AM ashamed), really. I might be wrong, of course, but in that case you're also missing out on a great album. :)




Part of why Sgt. Peppers is a masterpiece and a classic is because of its masterful and new recording/engineering techniques that were used.  It may be quite produced, but no other album until then had really been as wild, stylish and unconventional. 

Rumors came out many many years after Sgt. Peppers and doesn't offer the same quality of well done songcraft with revolutionary recording techniques and processes.  I have listened to Rumors many many times to figure out what makes it one of the best selling albums of all time, and a "great" album.  I have never found out why, and do not expect to.  So I'll stick to Peter Green's Fleetwood, and Fleetwood pre-Nicks/Buckingham.
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I had listened to Sgt.Pepper's many times before as well, but not until Abbey Road did i begin to enjoy it at all, and now i truly love both albums. Not because it was revolutionary, because, let's face it, i weren't even around to see it as such all those years ago, but because of the song-writing, vocal harmonies, overall sound..

If you don't like Rumours because it doesn't resonate with you personally, i have no problem with that, it was just the word "over-produced" which made me think of Sgt.Pepper. :)

But then again, i'm still struggling to enjoy most of Pet sounds, so i guess i can understand where you're coming from, haha..
After all, i'm just a sucker for heavily layered vocal harmonies...

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Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

I had listened to Sgt.Pepper's many times before as well, but not until Abbey Road did i begin to enjoy it at all, and now i truly love both albums. Not because it was revolutionary, because, let's face it, i weren't even around to see it as such all those years ago, but because of the song-writing, vocal harmonies, overall sound..

If you don't like Rumours because it doesn't resonate with you personally, i have no problem with that, it was just the word "over-produced" which made me think of Sgt.Pepper. :)

But then again, i'm still struggling to enjoy most of Pet sounds, so i guess i can understand where you're coming from, haha..
After all, i'm just a sucker for heavily layered vocal harmonies...


Pet Sounds was tough for me to really get into at first.  I enjoyed it first time thru, but not all the way.  Now I think its one of the most wonderful things a man could listen to.
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Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

I had listened to Sgt.Pepper's many times before as well, but not until Abbey Road did i begin to enjoy it at all, and now i truly love both albums. Not because it was revolutionary, because, let's face it, i weren't even around to see it as such all those years ago, but because of the song-writing, vocal harmonies, overall sound..

If you don't like Rumours because it doesn't resonate with you personally, i have no problem with that, it was just the word "over-produced" which made me think of Sgt.Pepper. :)

But then again, i'm still struggling to enjoy most of Pet sounds, so i guess i can understand where you're coming from, haha..
After all, i'm just a sucker for heavily layered vocal harmonies...


Pet Sounds was tough for me to really get into at first.  I enjoyed it first time thru, but not all the way.  Now I think its one of the most wonderful things a man could listen to.
And that is excactly how i feel about Rumours! :)
Taste is such a strange thing, isn't it? Changes back and forth, gives me hope that one day in the future i might fully get the Mahavishnu Orchestra :)

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Points: 1043 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 16:49
I love Fleetwood mac with Buckingham and Nicks, one of my favorite bands really. The best album i know of them is the double live album that was recorded after Tusk where all their songs just have that rougher edge, great music.
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I love Fleetwood mac with Buckingham and Nicks, one of my favorite bands really. The best album i know of them is the double live album that was recorded after Tusk where all their songs just have that rougher edge, great music.
 
I'm So Afraid is such a good song!!    The version of Never going back Again is wonderful too.
 
 
 
 
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I'm so afraid is indeed terrific on that album. Never going back again also sounds (even) more convincing here than on the studio album. I also love Stevie Nick's vocals on the live album, more emotional than on the studio releases.
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Great band, always amazed me how they went from the tradional British Blues Boom to the gods of US FM commercial radio. Saw a documentry on them years ago, their story is so interesting!
Recently picked up the LP 'Then Play On' which is great. Also really enjoy some of the more obscure 70's albums like Future Games and Mystery To Me.
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I have Rumours, which is a good record, but I love The Peter Green era
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I am currently listening to the Lindsey Buckingham solo album Go Insane.  Been awhile since I listened to it, but it definitely has some proggy moments to it, like Play in the Rain I and II.  And the whole album is rather avant garde.  And there's a naked woman on the back cover.  Tongue
 
I highly recommend it to all Mac fans and anyone who loves good progressive tinged pop. 
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Great band and Rumors is the perfect album, not a single filler, I like both eras, even when i feel closer to the Buckingham & Nicks than to the Peter Green.
 
I can't understand how such a limited drummer like Mick Fleetwood (Has only one set of beats, if you don't believe me listen Sarah) manages to sound so good with every song, he's pure power.
 
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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2007 at 19:32
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Great band and Rumors is the perfect album, not a single filler, I like both eras, even when i feel closer to the Buckingham & Nicks than to the Peter Green.
 
I can't understand how such a limited drummer like Mick Fleetwood (Has only one set of beats, if you don't believe me listen Sarah) manages to sound so good with every song, he's pure power.
 
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There were actually three eras to the band.  The Peter Green era, the Bob Welch era and the Buckingham Nicks era.  Wink  I actually don't care much for the Green era, but love the later two eras. 
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Great band and Rumors is the perfect album, not a single filler, I like both eras, even when i feel closer to the Buckingham & Nicks than to the Peter Green.
 
I can't understand how such a limited drummer like Mick Fleetwood (Has only one set of beats, if you don't believe me listen Sarah) manages to sound so good with every song, he's pure power.
 
Iván.
Yeah, i have always thought kinda the same, it's not like Mick seems to be a monster drummer at all, but then i'm not a great drumming expert, and i don't tend to listen to drums as much as most people seem to do.
Seriously, i'm starting to think that Tusk hasn't got too much filler either.. too bad that, while i found "tell me lies" was a great song and gave me some very high expectations for even the 80's output of the band, the last part of "Tango in the night" completely trashed that dream, and it seems that not even the Mac will be totally free from really lousy songs.

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I am actually starting to believe that  Rumours is my favourite album of all.. in tront of both First Utterance AND Still Life.. But i'm not completely sure.

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I haven't heard too much of the Bob Welch years to give an opinion, but the little I heard didn't caught my attention.
 
Anyway, don't care if it's commercial, Pop or whatever, I like Buckingham & Nicks much more than the rest.
 
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Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Great band and Rumors is the perfect album, not a single filler, I like both eras, even when i feel closer to the Buckingham & Nicks than to the Peter Green.
 
I can't understand how such a limited drummer like Mick Fleetwood (Has only one set of beats, if you don't believe me listen Sarah) manages to sound so good with every song, he's pure power.
 
Iván.
Yeah, i have always thought kinda the same, it's not like Mick seems to be a monster drummer at all, but then i'm not a great drumming expert, and i don't tend to listen to drums as much as most people seem to do.
Seriously, i'm starting to think that Tusk hasn't got too much filler either.. too bad that, while i found "tell me lies" was a great song and gave me some very high expectations for even the 80's output of the band, the last part of "Tango in the night" completely trashed that dream, and it seems that not even the Mac will be totally free from really lousy songs.
 
What did you think of Say You Will?  I loved the album, but wished that Christine had a more prominent role than just a few background vocals.  Cry
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Great band and Rumors is the perfect album, not a single filler, I like both eras, even when i feel closer to the Buckingham & Nicks than to the Peter Green.
 
I can't understand how such a limited drummer like Mick Fleetwood (Has only one set of beats, if you don't believe me listen Sarah) manages to sound so good with every song, he's pure power.
 
Iván.
Yeah, i have always thought kinda the same, it's not like Mick seems to be a monster drummer at all, but then i'm not a great drumming expert, and i don't tend to listen to drums as much as most people seem to do.
Seriously, i'm starting to think that Tusk hasn't got too much filler either.. too bad that, while i found "tell me lies" was a great song and gave me some very high expectations for even the 80's output of the band, the last part of "Tango in the night" completely trashed that dream, and it seems that not even the Mac will be totally free from really lousy songs.
 
What did you think of Say You Will?  I loved the album, but wished that Christine had a more prominent role than just a few background vocals.  Cry
Sorry, i haven't heard it yet, only Rumours and Tusk, but i will get the first soon.

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Yes, get the first one with Buckingham Nicks first, then I would suggest, if you haven't heard it yet, get the album Future Games (which precedes Buckingham and Nicks) and then get Say You Will (which sadly lacks any writing or lead vocal work from Christine, but is otherwise a very strong album).  Mirage is also decent.  As are Bare Trees, Kiln House and Mystery to Me (all three pre-Buckingham/Nicks).
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Yeah, Mac is a band that people like to deride like the Eagles for being too commercial, but you just can't argue with raw talent and songwriting.  Both groups have both in huge quantity.  Buckingham is a genius in the studio as were Henley and Frey at crafting amazing pop songs.  I don't play them much anymore but the quality and talent are hard to deny.  

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Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

By the way, anyone else than me think that Fleetwood Mac is one of the coolest band names ever? :)
 
The original name was a mouthful: Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac
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