The Who are here.....Who?

micky wrote: ...well at least what you consider symphonic hahahhaha   Iván

No Micky, what my team considers Symphonic, a team of which you were part for seven months.

Ivan, Micky, let's not re-open old wounds. I'm sure you're both big enough to respect each others opinions, and the right to hold them.

What ban would that be? I would say Iron Maiden would be THE proto prog metal band since every prog metal interview I've heard features the artist citing Maiden. Do you mean The Who? They certainly influenced heavy prog, but I wouldn't consider them THE band.

1800iareyay wrote: What ban would that be? I would say Iron Maiden would be THE proto prog metal band since every prog metal interview I've heard features the artist citing Maiden. Do you mean The Who? They certainly influenced heavy prog, but I wouldn't consider them THE band.

I think he means Dream Theater, but it was indeed Maiden who most significantly influenced progressive metal...





Edited by Atavachron - July 22 2007 at 22:11

No... I meant Metallica... When I started the thread in the "Suggest bands" section, we got like 15 pages or replies, most of them against the inclusion, but a few (and, I have to say it, the most musical opinions) in favor... I just mention this because I think that band's influence in prog-metal bands is greater than The Who's in prog-rock bands... But anyway, the site Owners rejected Metallica, so that's case closed... I just mentioned this because it seems to me it's just unfair that prog-metal, probably today's most successful prog genre (in terms of amount of bands specially, some of them great, but also in popularity...le'ts not argue about this, please, I'm ready to accept this not to be 100% true but it's not my point) has only ONE band listed in the site (Iron Maiden) which can be called proto-prog-metal....

1800iareyay wrote: Ah. I thought it would be wither Maiden or the Bay Area boys. I support Metallica's inclusion, but why discuss it in the Who thread?

Proletariat wrote: If any metal band deserves a spot it is motorhead, after all lemmy was in hawkwind.

interesting point, though I don't recall any Motorhead material that was influential on ProgMetal.. more a candidate for Prog Related.

I for one applaud the addition of The Who as a proto-prog band.  Were The Who prog?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: The Whistler wrote: Schizo, might I suggest that you screw Tommy and go straight for the Quad? The songs tend to be longer (barring the over-and-underture), and they're fairly layered. Sometimes complex even. And I think you need to remember that Townshead is just as pretentious as all the young dudes who play "real" prog.   I agree and that's my main problem, in their early stages The Who were a Mod band, aggressive, close to the roots of Rock & Roll, etc, if they were something they were Proto Punk.   Pete Townshend in "The Kids are Alright" says clearly that when they added Pinball Wizard to Tommy, the album ceased to be a Rock Opera and more a Pop Opera".   If we are going to add bands that influenced Prog but not exclusively, lets add Chuck Berry or Little Richard,...Who can deny this two musicians influenced EVRYTHING after them much more than The Who?   What about The Rolling Stones? Who can deny they influenced later bands or that Their Satanic majesties Request is a cornerstone of Prog Psyche?   The list of barely Prog bands mentioned is endless, but in the meanwhile the Art Rock team is strugling to check really Prog bands and find them a new home because nobody wants them, while we try to help them but of course it's not much we can do because we have our own business.   We know that is hard, tedious and very tiresome because we did it, and they will receive critics as we did in our moment, but they are doing a real work for Prog.   So while a group of members break their b@lls checking hundreed of Prog bands with a bit of help, the site keeps adding non Prog bands as if it was the main goal.   Then we will have to ask all Punk pages to retire The Who because they claim this band is the greatest influence for Punk.   Another contradiction, the closest The Who came to Prog was in Quadrophenia nad that's in October 19, 1973, so they can't be in Proto Prog, they should be in Prog Related, despite calling The Whi}o related to anything is almost a discredit for them who are icons of Classic Rock.   But they are here, we can't do a thing, hope we start to care more about real Prog bands than about bands that could or could not have influenced Prog, because if we open the gates we could have a flood of POP.   Now I have another problem, I'm a fan of The Who and IMHO "Who''s Next" is one of the top 10 albums of all times, but I can't rate it with more than 3 stars. because as everybody has posted before, they are not a Prog band, and for that reason they can't be an:  ESSENTIAL MASTERPIECE OF PROGRESSIVE MUSIC NEITHER AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO ANY PROG MUSIC COLLECTION.   In a classic Rock site I will give this album 5 or 10 stars if possible, here I'm restrained to 3 stars Good but not Essential, because nobody sane can claim this album is essential for Prog.   But they are here, sadly the sky is not the limit, only three weak stars.   Iván

Atavachron wrote: Proletariat wrote: If any metal band deserves a spot it is motorhead, after all lemmy was in hawkwind. interesting point, though I don't recall any Motorhead material that was influential on ProgMetal.. more a candidate for Prog Related.