Thordendal´s Special Defects - Sol Niger Within

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Ok, the time has come to talk about this album

Often overlooked, mostly ignored, this is one crazy album! It´s the only solo album from Meshuggah´s guitarrist Fredik Thordendal, but it´s really a mistake to call it a solo album, as, although Thordendal is the main composer, this feels like a whole band. With the incorporation of Tomas Haake taking over vocals and Karpa´s drummer Morten Agre, there is a similar yet different aproach than Meshuggah. There is definitly the complexity in the rhythm patterns and the ultra heavy guitars... but there is a lot of jazz, some humor, a lot of soloing which makes this go apart from the Meshuggah catalog. Still, its difficult that this will not go down with the Meshuggah fans.

I for one, if we continue with the Meshuggah talking, think its just as good as any of their material... I even would go as far as saying its better than some of their albums, specially the first ones... and a nice contender to the latter I and Catch 33... but, honestly, how can anything top I?...

so, discuss...

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el böthy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336	Topic: Thordendal´s Special Defects - Sol Niger Within Posted: July 22 2007 at 21:22
	Ok, the time has come to talk about this album Often overlooked, mostly ignored, this is one crazy album! It´s the only solo album from Meshuggah´s guitarrist Fredik Thordendal, but it´s really a mistake to call it a solo album, as, although Thordendal is the main composer, this feels like a whole band. With the incorporation of Tomas Haake taking over vocals and Karpa´s drummer Morten Agre, there is a similar yet different aproach than Meshuggah. There is definitly the complexity in the rhythm patterns and the ultra heavy guitars... but there is a lot of jazz, some humor, a lot of soloing which makes this go apart from the Meshuggah catalog. Still, its difficult that this will not go down with the Meshuggah fans. I for one, if we continue with the Meshuggah talking, think its just as good as any of their material... I even would go as far as saying its better than some of their albums, specially the first ones... and a nice contender to the latter I and Catch 33... but, honestly, how can anything top I?... so, discuss...
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Bj-1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31157	Posted: July 22 2007 at 21:26
	Easily one of my favorite albums, ever! It's avant/fusion/metal at it's very best, IMO. Thordendal really shows his compositional and technical skills really well, and his Holdsworth influenced solos are always amazing. Not an easy listening album really, but still an amazing one!
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StarBreaker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: June 30 2007 Status: Offline Points: 62	Posted: July 23 2007 at 00:38
	It can definitely compete with Meshuggah, and is probably even better than most of their stuff (though I is kinda tough to beat).

Reverie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 14 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 626	Posted: July 23 2007 at 01:35
	Yep, amazing album. It should also be pointed out, for those who aren't aware, there are two versions: the original, and a re-release known as version 3.33 I haven't heard the 3.33 version, and i would like to, but i do have the original pressing witht he ridiculous (but still very cool) drum/keyboard duelling, which is what was switched out of ver 3.33 i believe (somebody correct me if i'm mistaken). Anyway, really good stuff, and yes, at times it is better than Meshuggah in general.

el böthy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336	Posted: July 23 2007 at 14:22
	I also consider it to me... easier on the ears than most Meshuggah, I even would give it to a non Meshuggah fan to get him into them
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