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    Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:39
Ok ok ok...this sounds very very out of line...I mean people are going to think "Money for Nothing" and not even consider it. But...for a Prog Related band...this band is incredible. Listen to the 14 minute prog folk epic "Telegraph Road" or the extremely moody "Private Investigations" Dire Straits fuses Bob Dylan type folk with some scottish type moods and very english electric blues. Then he throws classical and a bit of country and jazz at you too...of course, I may be grasping at straws here because my vision is clouded with the fact that they just plain rock...but what do you think?
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Personally, I think "Love over gold" was as close as they got to prog, but not close enough even for prog related in my opinion.
 
A fine band though.
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Love Over Gold is a great album! I think Dire Straits is one those bands who, although not quite prog, definitely ventured into some amazing sonic territory..
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:54
Dire Straits, while one of the more unique blues bands, does not qualify even for PR IMO. The best argument for inclusion could come from either Love Over Gold or the live album Alchemy. Mighty long shot, though, if you ask me
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I think you're grasping at straws. Very short ones too. They were rejected by 18-4 in a previous poll.http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21238&KW=dire+straits

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Well I think you guys are probably right. They wouldn't qualify for progressive in this sites definition...which is a good thing, we shouldn't just accept every singly good band on the face of this earth as progressive. One cannot deny though, after listening to "Love Over Gold" that for being in the 80's (an extremely bad era) they were one of the few bands that really explored folk rock and melded many styles.

One thought though, think about this, Dire Straits made the song Telegraph Road...a 14 minute number...and somehow got it to receive regular radio airplay, I have heard it about 3-4 times on the radio...and I rarely listen to the radio...how did they manage that?!! Dire Straits is one of the few bands that you never hear people saying "Their songs are too long" they just go ahead and play them...its really amazing. Anybody know how that works?
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Points: 8238 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:41
I love the band, too, but they probably feature way too much variety in their influences to be included here.  I've always thought "On Every Street" had some fine prog moments.
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Love Dire Straits. They are a great adventurous rock band with varied influences, but I don't think they should be on the site, even though, as you said, Telegraph Road is 14 minutes long.
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Yes, Dire Straits has wrote an epic song. But for me isn't a clear cause for the DS inclusion in PA. Yes, for 80's standards is Prog... But for Prog standards... Well... Well... Well... Is only a very good band!!!ShockedShockedShocked
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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Yes, Dire Straits has wrote an epic song. But for me isn't a clear cause for the DS inclusion in PA. Yes, for 80's standards is Prog... But for Prog standards... Well... Well... Well... Is only a very good band!!!ShockedShockedShocked


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DS are a great band, one of my favourites from the Eighties. However, I don't think they really have any connection with prog. A 14-minute track doesn't always equal prog content, in my humble opinion. Anyway, it's not the first time they have been suggested, and the majority was quite overwhelmingly against their addition.
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Amazing band, I used to surf with those old yellow waterproof walkmans while listening "Lady Writter", excelent band.
 
But not Prog for the 70's, 80's, 90's or 00's standards.
 
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Yeah, great music despite being anything but Prog.
 
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally, I think "Love over gold" was as close as they got to prog, but not close enough even for prog related in my opinion.
 
A fine band though.
 
 
 
 
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:52
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally, I think "Love over gold" was as close as they got to prog, but not close enough even for prog related in my opinion.
 
A fine band though.
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(DS have been already discussed many times here, as well.)
 
All that glitters is not prog. Stern%20Smile
 
Not that "prog" is anywhere near satisfactorily delineated, either -- as a separate, readily-defined genre, it doesn't even exist! Blurrier and blurrier....Confused
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WITH THIS ONE I DISAGREE (and that's saying a lot)....Tongue
 
Please....
 
When will Korn get added? They really marked an "evolution"in rock...
 
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Most of their stuff isn't prog, though I think love over gold was absolutelly prog, no question in my mind. Of all the bands suggested for PR recently this has been the first I could get behind. Also Knofflers solo stuff is often even proggier and should be checked out.
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Dire Straits album MAKING Movies had a couple of 8 minute songs on it.
Some of Knofler's solo soundtracks may get close to prog.
But in the end I don't think they quite make it although Knofler has the artistic ingenuity and integrity of a prog artist and I'm sure if he wanted to could have made a few decent prog albums.



  
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 18:06
We're discussing DIRE STRAITS but if someone dares mention Black Sabbath or Metallica, both of which have much more relation to prog (at least to one genre of prog, today's leading genre) people's eyes go berzerk and others ask to "stop it" ...very welll....
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

We're discussing DIRE STRAITS but if someone dares mention Black Sabbath or Metallica, both of which have much more relation to prog (at least to one genre of prog, today's leading genre) people's eyes go berzerk and others ask to "stop it" ...very welll....
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But to be on topic... great band, not prog.
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It is certain Dire Straits is not considered a progressive rock band by the great majority of people. But to say it is not fit for the site is impossible, since there is no defined rule for this, so every band is elegible.
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Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

It is certain Dire Straits is not considered a progressive rock band by the great majority of people. But to say it is not fit for the site is impossible, since there is no defined rule for this, so every band is elegible.
 
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