Who composes songs for pop stars?

they get some 40 year old song writer who prob gets paid 2 cent for their work

Tony R wrote: Not strictly true, apparently he wrote one song called "You'll Be Gone" in 1962.However, quite heinously in my view, he got co-writing credits on some songs in exchange for performing them!

This is nothing new, some artists had troubles with lyrics, so the early studios had lyricists that for a salary made the words for a song, but lets be hionest, most of them were not good enough to make a cereer of their own.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - August 26 2007 at 16:09

bhikkhu wrote: Peter wrote: N Ellingworth wrote: Yeah it's a stupid situation as it allows talentless nobodies who look good to earn millions whilst real musicians struggle away and never get the recognition they deserve.Unless that sort of Pop music suddenly becomes unpopular the record companies will continue to shove this rubbish down our throats.  Really? I don't buy it, and I surmise that you don't, either -- we have a little something called free will.   Yes Peter, but there is something to that statement. The music "business" has become so insulated that there is no chance of new sounds breaking through. Only the tried and true gets produced. So it's gong to be more of the same for a long time. Trends in music (popular too) used to change every few years. When was the last time there was a major shift?

That's a good point, bhikkhu, but I suppose there is also an unprecedented  ability for new artists to self-produce via computer & home studio technology, and self-promote via the internet.

Whatever the case (and in support of what you say), I don't look to the radio to find out about new artists, but to magazines (usually British), and our own PA, where "word of mouth" often leads me to interesting finds. (I liked it better when sample MP3s were available, but c'est la vie).

I find that I can buy as much good, current music these days as I ever could -- though finding out about it rarely involves commercial radio.

Then again, though, I'm not really looking for "new trends in music" at this stage in my listening life -- my tastes seem to have more or less "coalesced."


Edited by Peter - August 26 2007 at 15:34

Peter wrote: N Ellingworth wrote: Yeah it's a stupid situation as it allows talentless nobodies who look good to earn millions whilst real musicians struggle away and never get the recognition they deserve.Unless that sort of Pop music suddenly becomes unpopular the record companies will continue to shove this rubbish down our throats.  Really? I don't buy it, and I surmise that you don't, either -- we have a little something called free will.

Yes Peter, but there is something to that statement. The music "business" has become so insulated that there is no chance of new sounds breaking through. Only the tried and true gets produced. So it's gong to be more of the same for a long time. Trends in music (popular too) used to change every few years. When was the last time there was a major shift?

I saw this guy the other day on TV who said something like:

Peter wrote: N Ellingworth wrote: Yeah it's a stupid situation as it allows talentless nobodies who look good to earn millions whilst real musicians struggle away and never get the recognition they deserve. Unless that sort of Pop music suddenly becomes unpopular the record companies will continue to shove this rubbish down our throats.  Really? I don't buy it, and I surmise that you don't, either -- we have a little something called free will.

Poor choice of words on my part there, perhaps I should of added 'attepmt to' in front of that little snippet.

Havin' a good time Peter? D'you like Joanna?

Finally, it is possible to like some simpler, popular music, along with prog, you know (I'm not always in the same mood). Nor is all that's "pop" necessarily rubbish.

N Ellingworth wrote: Yeah it's a stupid situation as it allows talentless nobodies who look good to earn millions whilst real musicians struggle away and never get the recognition they deserve. Unless that sort of Pop music suddenly becomes unpopular the record companies will continue to shove this rubbish down our throats.

 Really? I don't buy it, and I surmise that you don't, either -- we have a little something called free will.

Edited by Peter - August 25 2007 at 13:44