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    Posted: March 07 2005 at 11:38

i need help i am only 15 and have grown up listening to genesis and pendragon and only in the past 3 years have i got into pink floyd, dream theater,yes, ayreon etc. and as i read the topics people have posted i think to myself i know nothing about the older less commercial/popular bands. would someone please tell me some songs and artists who are not as well known that are good and if any from the 70's (great era sadly i wern't around then )



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You should visit http://www.vintageprog.com. great reviews of a lot of albums.
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Kansas

Try Leftoverture, and Point of Know Return.... or the Greatest Hits.
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I'd go for Camel if I were You - Classic stuff and very accesible !
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Marillion, the first albums (with Fish as singer).
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definatly camel (especially moonmadness and mirage!)

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Just stay here...less than a year ago I didn't know prog existed... now I'm a reviewer!
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How about trying Curved Air? and listen to 'the snow goose" by camel, great stuff

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Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:

Marillion, the first albums (with Fish as singer).

 

yea my dad likes marillion i odn;t think he has any of their earlier stuff but he ahs fish's solo albums. (i think)
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If you want something a little more challenging and uncommerical then Gentle Giant is the place to begin. I recommend Free Hand, but Octopus and In a Glass House are also reasonable starting points.
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Have a look at the top albums on the home page, and try a few of the MP3s for those bands. That should point you in the right direction!

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Nektar, Camel, and Gentle Giant

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Camel? I haven't heard of them.... what are they like?
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Originally posted by Shatterwolf Shatterwolf wrote:

Camel? I haven't heard of them.... what are they like?


Very very dull.
 
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Shatterwolf Shatterwolf wrote:

Camel? I haven't heard of them.... what are they like?


Very very dull.
 

Not dull at all actually, an excellent prog band, enjoyed by many here.
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TRY CAMEL
       CARAVEN
       SOFT MACHINE
       EGG
       GONG
       GENTLE GIANT
       NEKTAR ................ GOD!!!!! hold on this list could take all flippin' night just get hold of whatever you can Try downloads from progarchives but whatever you do make certain that you listen to Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill and really give your ears a treat

                                

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Kayak (first 3 albums up to and inc Royal Bed Bouncer are well worth checking out)

PFM (excellent Italian prog band)

Refugee (only one album in a sypmphonic style,features Patrick Moraz pre Yes and it's superb!)

Aphrodites Child -666 (Fantastic album by this Greek band featuring Vangelis and Demis Rousos!)

Eloy - Power and the Passion (German prog,very powerfull) 
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The best advice is to listen to the positives on here then take your'e time and you will learn young Skywalker.
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Magma is good, I enjoy Marillion and Spock's beard also. Rush is my favorite band overall I'd also recommend Dream Theater-Awake great album
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Originally posted by Shatterwolf Shatterwolf wrote:

Camel? I haven't heard of them.... what are they like?

Camel have a unique sound - it's quite hard to compare them with anyone, but let's just say that the vocals make the groups' name quite apt...

Seriously, Camel are at the more accessible end of prog, and tend to concentrate on fantastic melodies more than out-there avant-gardeness. On the surface, they have a kind of AOR rock sound, but beneath that, there are superb, hooky riffs that change with no or little warning which give their music an incredibly improvised feel.

The icing on the cake (which is a very good cake, made up of solid yet sensitive drums and bass, punchy rhythm guitar and driving keyboards) is Andy Latimer's amazing melodic guitar solos - after hearing AL, nearly everyone else starts to sound like they're just bluffing and being technical for the sake of it (with the obvious exceptions of Dave Gilmour and Steve Rothery). As if that's not enough, you also get the rich marzipan of Pete Bardens' organ... or should I rephrase that ... The interplay between Bardens and Latimer on Camel's early albums is just amazing - you can hear the two of them firing each other off, creating amazing combined textures and "conversations".

And, because this is a professionally iced cake and I want to spin this metaphor out as long as I think I can get away with it, you get Andy Latimer's excellent flute playing. I doubt he ever made Ian Anderson think about jacking it in, but it's a bonus texture in Mirage onwards. Mirage is an absolute masterpiece of prog rock, and recommended listening (see my review ). The Snow Goose goes one further, and enlists further musical textures, including a bassoon and an oboe to create a quasi-classical texture. The live version (of the entire Snow Goose album) on A Live Record features a full orchestra. Snow Goose and A Live Record are also highly recommended

 

 
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