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    Posted: January 27 2008 at 10:57
here are some more relevant works if you like Supersilent:


Death Ambient [feat. Ikue Mori and Fred Frith] (from '95 this is truly dark electro-death-improv!)

Phantom City - Shiva Recoil / Site Anubis (electronic fusion assemblages feat. Bill Laswell, sound texturalist Paul Schutze and other improvisers)

Alex Cline - Cloud Plate (Buoth-impov anyone?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2008 at 13:22
So, like I said, I'm currently going album by album, "studying" their music and enjoying it.
 
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

to reprise my descriptions of their albums:
 
1-3  -  skull-f**king noise-jazz blizzards!!!    Absolutely. Intense noise/improv section.
 
4  -  this is death-jazz!!! ominous, rumbling power.......  I liked the tribal feeling here, great power
 
5  -  their most ambient work but full of intense foreboding Need more listens, but that was definitely more tamed than previous works.
 
6  -  their most soundtrack-ish and beautifully glacial work, ECM fans take note!! Finally got to this one; I agree; this paints a scenario in my mind as I listened to it, and it had some elegance to it, something which previous albums did not emphasize.
 
7  -  the mother of all live dvds, beautifully filimed in black n' white, amazing music that builds from canvasses of silence into epic catastrophic rock-outs!!! I'm not into DVD's and line shows that much, so I'll skip that one.
 
8  -  a relatively sparse and minimal effort but an effective lumbering-swaying beast, with 2 doom/metalnoise workouts thrown in fer good measure!!! I have the album as well, but I'll listen to it once I've absorbed 5 and 6 better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2008 at 10:03
Only heard a few Supersilent tracks but I like what I've heard, I need to hear more!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2008 at 08:43
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

Ahhh...... Radian, most excellent motorik-electronik postrock.  Another band which would you guys wld like if you like it rhythmic/electronic but without too much postrock, go for this French 90s quartet called Tone Rec
 
Their 3 albums (Thugny-Trugny, Pholcus, Couchy Pack) are top-notch esp the first 2 which bring to mnd the best bits of Oval and Tortoise's Djed.........
 
I have Thugny-Trugny which I still have yet to listen to. I'll definitely do so now, thanks!
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2008 at 21:53
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

Ahhh...... Radian, most excellent motorik-electronik postrock.  Another band which would you guys wld like if you like it rhythmic/electronic but without too much postrock, go for this French 90s quartet called Tone Rec
 
Their 3 albums (Thugny-Trugny, Pholcus, Couchy Pack) are top-notch esp the first 2 which bring to mnd the best bits of Oval and Tortoise's Djed.........

Gonna take note for these two bands. Thanks for the recommendations.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2008 at 21:38
Ahhh...... Radian, most excellent motorik-electronik postrock.  Another band which would you guys wld like if you like it rhythmic/electronic but without too much postrock, go for this French 90s quartet called Tone Rec
 
Their 3 albums (Thugny-Trugny, Pholcus, Couchy Pack) are top-notch esp the first 2 which bring to mnd the best bits of Oval and Tortoise's Djed.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 21:45
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Great band, which I have revisted due to this thread. Thinking 'bout picking up that boxset of the first three albums, looks promising. Looking at the above posts from progressive ears, I was surprise to see several people linking this band to eai. While I can see where people are making links, I don't personally agree with them. But it is good to see such a small niche of musical getting a mention on a prog site.
 
BTW Assaf, have you given those Radian albums I sent you a while back a spin? I know they are different types of bands, but at times I find the timbre somewhat similar, despite the void of jazzy tendancies. The drummer from Radian, produced an album with another Austrian musican (guitarist) called 'Too Beautiful to Burn' which is absolutely stunning. So if you liked them I will have to send you some samples of this other album. A very rhythmic album with an almost post-rock like influence, with out the rock.  
 
Hey Adam,
 
Haven't listened to it yet (I've got a ton of music on my hard drive still to listen to).
But I'll listen to it definitely and I'm interested in this album you mention here as well.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2008 at 20:12
Great band, which I have revisted due to this thread. Thinking 'bout picking up that boxset of the first three albums, looks promising. Looking at the above posts from progressive ears, I was surprise to see several people linking this band to eai. While I can see where people are making links, I don't personally agree with them. But it is good to see such a small niche of musical getting a mention on a prog site.
 
BTW Assaf, have you given those Radian albums I sent you a while back a spin? I know they are different types of bands, but at times I find the timbre somewhat similar, despite the void of jazzy tendancies. The drummer from Radian, produced an album with another Austrian musican (guitarist) called 'Too Beautiful to Burn' which is absolutely stunning. So if you liked them I will have to send you some samples of this other album. A very rhythmic album with an almost post-rock like influence, with out the rock.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2008 at 03:46
Out of everything listed, I'm only familiar with Ultralyd, but I do plan on listening to Supersilent soon.

I think it was my gentle reminder to Assaf, that got him hooked on Ultralyd, especially as I know he likes Shining - Grindstone.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2008 at 22:45
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

Ultralyd - Conditions For A Piece of Music
 
Recently discovered this as well (been on my hard drive for some time unlistened to) and loving it as well as their other album. They're on our voting chart.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2008 at 21:45
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Electric full improvisation is not easy to come across in my particular explorations. In most jazz contexts, you have stuff with 'electronic manipulation' like Evan Parker's Electroacoustic ensemble and Spring Heel Jack's later work. There's also a lot of EAI music which gets 'way out' there from the most extreme music to the emerging minimalist movement (imagine listening to electronic manipulation in the form of blips and feedback a la Keith Rowe for 60 minutes). In rock or other contexts, rarely do you get full on improv as much as "jamming".

A few recs off the top of my head.

Bone Structure - G.E. Stinson/Gregg Bendian's improv group on Cryptogramophone. It's electric nature and violin certainly can remind one of early 70s Crimson improvs at times.

L Stinkbug & Splinter Group - Two more G.E. Stinson related bands, both heavy on the guitar.

Francois Houle - Au Coeur du Litige: Canadian jazz clarinet player's electro-acoustic album. First disc is mostly all solo with manipulation. 2nd disc has various musicians and some spoken word.

Species Being - Orgone Therapy: A 'rock improv' group with a few albums. They apparently played with Nels Cline at some point.

Isildurs Bane & Metamorfosi Trio - MIND Vol. 3: This one slipped by most people as it got away from IB's typical sound.

Porcupine Tree - Metanoia: Believe it or not. Though I wouldn't put this in the same league as Supersilent.

Djam Karet - Still No Commercial Potential - ditto.
 
 
Supersilent's roots are in a way still largely in jazz and here are some records that mix jazzz n' electronics which fans would like esp if you are into 5 and 6:
 
Marcus Stockhausen feat. Terje Rypdal - Karta
David Torn - Prezens
Jon Hassell - Powerspot
Lonely Universe - s/t (feat. Torn & Mick Karn)
Weather Report - Live In Montreux DVD
Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric
 
on the more rock end here are a few more:
 
King Crimson - Vroom mini-album / Thrakattak
The Projeckt series of cds by KC members
Ultralyd - Conditions For A Piece of Music
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 21:36
to reprise my descriptions of their albums:
 
1-3  -  skull-f**king noise-jazz blizzards!!!
 
4  -  this is death-jazz!!! ominous, rumbling power.......
 
5  -  their most ambient work but full of intense foreboding
 
6  -  their most soundtrack-ish and beautifully glacial work, ECM fans take note!!
 
7  -  the mother of all live dvds, beautifully filimed in black n' white, amazing music that builds from canvasses of silence into epic catastrophic rock-outs!!!
 
8  -  a relatively sparse and minimal effort but an effective lumbering-swaying beast, with 2 doom/metalnoise workouts thrown in fer good measure!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 13:53
I have one of Arve Henriksen's solo album. It's called Chiaroscuro and it's a nice gentle and peaceful album.

Haven't heard of Supersilent yet, but I'm planning on doing so soon.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 13:26
This is one of those bands that there's no way I should like but just do
 
6 is a nice chill album, still havent given 8 a proper listen


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 10:13
And two more:
 
Member: battema QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 9:41 AM
I own Supersilent 6 & 8 and enjoy both (I like 8 slightly more). Also own Strjon, which is good. Our bassist has the DVD and we watched it one night -- good stuff.

Mainly though (and actually my intro point into their music) I am a big fan of Deathprod's stuff. The black box collecting all his solo output thus far (not including Nordheim Transformed) is truly excellent IMHO.

 
 
 
 
Member: Poisoned Youth QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 10:10 AM

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Any suggestion for other bands in the same ball park?
Electric full improvisation is not easy to come across in my particular explorations. In most jazz contexts, you have stuff with 'electronic manipulation' like Evan Parker's Electroacoustic ensemble and Spring Heel Jack's later work. There's also a lot of EAI music which gets 'way out' there from the most extreme music to the emerging minimalist movement (imagine listening to electronic manipulation in the form of blips and feedback a la Keith Rowe for 60 minutes). In rock or other contexts, rarely do you get full on improv as much as "jamming".

A few recs off the top of my head.

Bone Structure - G.E. Stinson/Gregg Bendian's improv group on Cryptogramophone. It's electric nature and violin certainly can remind one of early 70s Crimson improvs at times.

L Stinkbug & Splinter Group - Two more G.E. Stinson related bands, both heavy on the guitar.

Francois Houle - Au Coeur du Litige: Canadian jazz clarinet player's electro-acoustic album. First disc is mostly all solo with manipulation. 2nd disc has various musicians and some spoken word.

Species Being - Orgone Therapy: A 'rock improv' group with a few albums. They apparently played with Nels Cline at some point.

Isildurs Bane & Metamorfosi Trio - MIND Vol. 3: This one slipped by most people as it got away from IB's typical sound.

Porcupine Tree - Metanoia: Believe it or not. Though I wouldn't put this in the same league as Supersilent.

Djam Karet - Still No Commercial Potential - ditto.
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 09:18
Let me quote some of the responses at Progressive Ears forum in a similar thread I opened:
 
Member: wu QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 12:10 AM
Arve Henrikson came out with a solo album last year, Strjon, that you might like, on Rune Grammofon.

Otherwise I don't know - I've only heard 6 and it kind of reminded me of a less abstract version of some electroacoustic improv type stuff. Lately I've been obsessing over a new eai disc, V 1.1 by a group called Fessenden. I'm not too educated on this stuff yet but I'm learning, and Supersilent strikes me as hovering close to this world, without actually being in it.


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Member: Mohadev)* QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 3:46 AM
I have 6 and 7, theyre both fantastic. I'd like to check out the earlier stuff (I've heard 1-3 are more intense), maybe I'll get around to that some day...

wu said:
Supersilent strikes me as hovering close to this world, without actually being in it.
Supersilent don't sound like "EAI" to me, but my experience with both is limited. I like the Supersilent I've heard because they straddle the line between 'jamming' (ie spontaneous composition) and improvising (spontaneous... playing?). In other words, they keep things interesting, but you don't have to get a divorce.

Member: Corbie QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 5:56 AM
There have been o yhandful of Supersilent related threads on PE over the last year or so. A few of us on here are big fans of the group. There is a sensibility at work that - to me - sounds like a distillation of the sort of thing the '73 - '74 King Crimson were doing with the idea of free improv in rock music.

They are, for me, a stupendous band and one of the few hopes that exist for genuine progression.

Member: steblik QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 6:46 AM
You might want to try Humcrush, which is Storloken and Scandinavian edgy-music fixture Thomas Stronen (also of Food) on percussion.


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Member: m QuoteUnbookmarkModerate • | 1/7/2008 7:43 AM
For the most part...I think the whole Supersilent discography is very good to great. I am partial to the first release which was a triple cd set (Supersilent 1-3). It's very raw, and edgy in parts which, I think they have since glossed over.

I saw them live a few years ago and it was fantastic, they revisted some of this loud raw energy that was displayed on the first 3 and, the dvd (Supersilent 7) is a definite must buy.

Corbie said:
sounds like a distillation of the sort of thing the '73 - '74 King Crimson were doing with the idea of free improv in rock music.
I hear this too. They seem to have similar notions of free improv...starting very slow and quiet and building into a huge cacophony of sound on many of their songs. This really is demonstrated well on their dvd. And not only does it sound great, but looks great too---all very artfully done in black and white.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 08:38
OH YES OH YES OH YES!!!!!! finally someone other than myself plugs the almighty Supersilent!!!  Honestly i think they're the greatest improv group in the history of the universe..........yet its not traditional call & response or noisy/quiet improv ala Derek Bailey or AMM but a powerful organic sound-beast that gathers momentum as the 4 members interact and empathise w one another.

Supersilent for PA!!! they're not a prog or fusion band per se but the music they create can bring to mind electric Miles, Terje Rypdal, Popul Vuh, Talk Talk, bits of King Crimson, Godspeed, IDM-electronica...........but its much more than the sum of such parts............

the greatest...............alongside Tortoise heheheh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2008 at 00:03
An intriguing sounding band.
 
Been wanting to order their first three boxset for a bit now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2008 at 20:49
I'll give  Farmer's Market a listen next week. Interested in hearing what it's like.
 
Back to Supersilent, that link to the interview I posted above (http://www.white-heat.com/?page=articles&id=17) has interesting details about the band's history and the way they make their records.
Just read this one question from the interview:

How does a Supersilent songs comes about? 

Jarle Vespestad: It's the same now as it has always been: we never rehearse, we improvise. We started out as a trio, without Helge. Then we rehearsed a lot, checking out different ways of communication. When Helge came in, the band stabilised, Supersilent became clearer in a way. We used to practise a lot, but we stopped doing that ten years ago.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2008 at 17:53
Heard all of their albums once in the record store downtown. Great stuff, will definitely check'em out further.
 
Jarle Vespestad is an amazing drummer, BTW. He played with another Norwegian band named Farmer's Market. They play a sort of hyperactive Ethnic Folk/Jazz/RIO music that reminds me of Alamaailman Vasarat mixed with Tribal Tech (I suggested them in the ZART) His performance with them is beyond awesome!
 
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