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    Posted: May 26 2008 at 13:44
Rock's a huge banner but we all know what's meant when it's referenced: classic rock, AOR, or however you want to pigeonhole it.

I can't stand the conservative bluesiness of this classic rock - I don't like the lyrics, I don't like my guitars to be overpowering and predictability (especially of twelve-bar models) evinces a certain amount of pain in me.

Am I alone here? Or are there other prog fans out there who make an exception for the subgenre?

honestly, ACDC, Led Zep, DP, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Eagles, ect ect ect all really annoy me. ;P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 13:49
sorry man....  Micky loves to rock... man can not live on prog alone.

listen to this.. and if you are not playing air guitar, wanting to down a 12 pack and bang the neighbors daughter.. you aint' livin brother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXHZNSUtyg

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 13:54
I don't live on prog alone. I love noise and torch songs, the real extremes! =P

but I do like some stuff on the fringes of rock, when it interfaces with the avant-garde - the nuttier side of new-wave and post-punk, or select sludge and/or grind albums. but the base sound is so hideous to me that I still feel like a dabbler.

I know the song you linked and it makes me sigh a little ;P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 14:01
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

sorry man....  Micky loves to rock... man can not live on prog alone.

listen to this.. and if you are not playing air guitar, wanting to down a 12 pack and bang the neighbors daughter.. you aint' livin brother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXHZNSUtyg



What's that thing about banging the neighbours' daughterAngryLOL?

Well, as Lappy knows, I'm very much into classic and hard rock, which is rather strange in the light of my being a woman. In fact, classic rock is very much a 'macho' genre (just like that AC/DC song - though I've never been into that band), and that can be a turn off to many women. I really can't explain why I love to rock so much, but I do, and I have always been like that. On the other hand, I'm willing to explore any genre of music, even though I am aware that not everything will be to my taste.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 14:19
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Rock's a huge banner but we all know what's meant when it's referenced: classic rock, AOR, or however you want to pigeonhole it.

I can't stand the conservative bluesiness of this classic rock - I don't like the lyrics, I don't like my guitars to be overpowering and predictability (especially of twelve-bar models) evinces a certain amount of pain in me.

Am I alone here? Or are there other prog fans out there who make an exception for the subgenre?

honestly, ACDC, Led Zep, DP, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Eagles, ect ect ect all really annoy me. ;P


Not too big about any of these bands, either (Rush would be my favourite of the bunch), though I don't actively dislike them, just don't care.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 14:46
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

sorry man....  Micky loves to rock... man can not live on prog alone.

listen to this.. and if you are not playing air guitar, wanting to down a 12 pack and bang the neighbors daughter.. you aint' livin brother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBXHZNSUtyg



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Yeah, he could hurt himself, at his ageTongue

Me. I'm borderline. Really, I have been brought up with too much exposure to modern 'rock', which I hated. Blues rock is a different matter, and I can live with any sort of sophisticated-ish rock music. Only really go berserk over atmospheric stuff, though.

I think it's that plain rock largely just lacks atmosphere or imagery for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 16:50
From AC/DC's TNT:
 
"So lock up your daughter
Lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life"
 
Honey, I'm about to put on some AC/DC.  Can you go warn the neighbors?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 17:13
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

sorry man.... Micky loves to rock... man can not live on prog alone..


Exactly!!

I LOVE to ROCK!! Deep Purple is massive dude!! Zep and Sabbath too, but behind, hehe.
Trapeze, Ac/Dc, Free, Rainbow, Ram Jam, Audioslave, Pearl Jam, etc, etc, I have hell of fun with these bands. I love rock! Specially hard rock.
Thankfully I do any instrument AIR, specially with hard rock, but prog is also included..

Also Heavy Prog can be considered. As Atomic Rooster, Rush, Uriah Heep, etc.

DUDE! I and many more LOVE to Rock!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 17:39
Not a big rocker, I'm afraid. Blues based, predictable rock music doesn't really do it for me these days. Maybe after a few beers, I would enjoy a nostalgia trip if someone put 'Back in Black' on, but if they even thought about putting Bryan Adams on, I wont be held responsible for my actions..

If I'm subjected to The Eagles, I would have to call the ' Bad taste police' ...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 17:47
'blues-based' rock can be predictable but the best of it is not; Zep, Sab, Hendrix, Santana, Jeff Beck, AC/DC are at their best when taking the blues in an unexpected direction or by adding musicianship to trad. blues 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:05
I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. My favorite bands used to include Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, The Scorpions, The Eagles, and whatever else the radio played. Now I can barely stand them (I still listen to some Deep Purple occasionally though).

The usually dumb lyrics about sex or drugs or having a good time, the obligatory and boring guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course), the 10 repetitions of a boring chorus, the lack of change within a song... it's just so boring to me.

And I think modern rock (starting with grunge) is one of the worst things to happen to music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:09
Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:12
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL


no doubt.. in fact, I'd much rather hear something decent on MTV than bad prog, there's nothing worse than bad prog


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:16
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL


no doubt.. in fact, I'd much rather hear something decent on MTV than bad prog, there's nothing worse than bad prog




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:25
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL
Less prone to all of those, though.


no doubt.. in fact, I'd much rather hear something decent on MTV than bad prog, there's nothing worse than bad prog



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:28
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Rock's a huge banner but we all know what's meant when it's referenced: classic rock, AOR, or however you want to pigeonhole it.

I can't stand the conservative bluesiness of this classic rock - I don't like the lyrics, I don't like my guitars to be overpowering and predictability (especially of twelve-bar models) evinces a certain amount of pain in me.

Am I alone here? Or are there other prog fans out there who make an exception for the subgenre?

honestly, ACDC, Led Zep, DP, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Eagles, ect ect ect all really annoy me. ;P
 
Some of these bands got me on to my feet to where I am now, and I must admit, I seriously dislike all these bands now. I've always hated ACDC, but listening to these other bands when they come on the radio is practically a chore to get through. In short, I know exactly how you feel Lappy, but maybe to an even more extreme extent, I even find myself hating standard song stuctures, look at my lastfm chart, the only band on there that consistentently use the verse chorus verse structure are A perfect circle and Neutral milk Hotel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 18:35
I love rock. Not as much as rockers do, and not as little as Laplace.

Still; most rock music naturally irritates me. But then again I could say that about almost anything.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 20:07
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL

I don't know what prog you're listening to but most of the prog I listen to doesn't have that. That's why I listen to it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 20:30
he speaks of the droves of prog rock that is simply *bad*, not good, disappointing in a big way..  not so much the stuff two prog fans disagree about as what you find when you really start hearing the second, third and fourth tier bands LOL     ..prog has a ton of crap I will refrain from mentioning cause those albums or groups have fans as well (presumably)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 22:02
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Rock's a huge banner but we all know what's meant when it's referenced: classic rock, AOR, or however you want to pigeonhole it.

DB - you mean like, er, prog Rock.

I can't stand the conservative bluesiness of this classic rock - I don't like the lyrics, I don't like my guitars to be overpowering and predictability (especially of twelve-bar models) evinces a certain amount of pain in me.

DB - I can't wait for Vibration Baby to come in with his view as to how prog the prog that came out after 1975 actually is. All genres, I repeat, ALL GENRES have their stereotypes, their "predictabilities", and various aspects that some will find overpowering (constantly shifting time signatures, nonsensical airy fairy lyrics, "ambient/mood/atmosphere interludes", an unseemly over rated sense of musical superiority, an often preposterous claim to being "Art". Choose your genre, and its' fans can surely find much to fault yours. Tit for Tat, and you hopefully learn to couche your words as an opinion. Allow yourself to be told that there are excellent musical acts in ALL GENRES, and crappy ones as well.

Am I alone here? Or are there other prog fans out there who make an exception for the subgenre?

DB - unfortunately, you're not alone. In my opinion, it is usually based on an intolerance built by classic radio overplaying the same songs. Of course, nowadays most of us (hey, maybe even you, too) have other options when listening to music. DO you have a phonograph at home, or cassette/CD/MP3 player either at home or in your car ? Do you have access to XM or Sirius radio ? In Canada, many of our Satellite and Cable stations have music channels as part of their packages. The music is from the vaults of the CBC. And the various genres abound (no prog yet, but some ambient, jazz fusion, and other somewhat avant-garde options).
This might allow youto build up a tolerance and maybe even come to enjoy classic rock when you don't have to hear it all the time. And even if you don't come to like it, you won't need to listen to it, eh. Problem solved, and you can move on to serious "annoyances".

honestly, ACDC, Led Zep, DP, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, Eagles, ect ect ect all really annoy me.

DB - Yeah, funny how many people disagree with you on the quality of the music these bands have put out over a number of years, and also managed to get beyond the "here today, gone tomorrow" aspect of so much music. We could just put it down to the mass media, except that, apart from the Eagles, mainstream radio didn't break them, touring, word of mouth, good songs & albums, were responsible.
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:-), Can we pick on an easier target, like Krautrock, or even more esoteric, Raga-Indo Rock ?
Oh, and if a certain set of songs are overplayed, there must be someone out there that wants to hear them again & again. That's not a bad sign for a piece of music, is it? Confused
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