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rileydog22 
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Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
 Topic: Recommend me some jazzPosted: June 23 2008 at 21:08 |
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I've recently dipped my toe in the jazz waters, and I think I'm ready to take a dive into the pool. The stuff I've dug so far:
Electric Miles Davis--Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson, In A Silent Way, etc. Ornette Coleman-Shape of Jazz to Come Pharaoh Sanders--Karma I like a lot of RIO and Zeuhl, so I'm not afraid of avant stuff. What other albums should I check out? |
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Mikerinos
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:42 |
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Well, I suppose if you're looking for something avant-garde, Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun is probably the most inaccessible album I've heard, I can only listen to it in certain moods. For 1968 (I think that was the year), it's definitely the most intense thing around at the time and most brutal metal doesn't even come close today.
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1800iareyay
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Joined: November 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2492 |
Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:47 |
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Charles Mingus- The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
John Coltrane- A Love Supreme, Ascension Eric Dolphy- Out To Lunch Those are good starters. I'm pretty much in your boat and am a n00b, but these releases are all superb to say the least. |
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Rocktopus
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Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
Posted: June 24 2008 at 04:01 |
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Here's five that simply can't dissapoint:
Herbie Hancock - Crossings (+everything Mwandishi period, also by Eddie Henderson & Julian Priester) McCoy Tyner - Sahara Sun Ra - The Heliocentric Worlds of Ra part I & II Don Cherry - Brown Rice Jan Garbarek - Afric Pepperbird (hope I don't look like a blind patriot for including this one. Its really that good) I've found tons of great solo stuff from just about any musician who played with Davis or Coltrane in the mid to late sixties/early seventies. If Tony Williams is in a line up, its probably something good. Everyone must own the already suggested: Out to Lunch. Be careful with anything recorded by the greats post 1975. |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Dick Heath
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Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12799 |
Posted: June 24 2008 at 06:01 |
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Avant grade or free jazz or experimental jazz? Whatever, it appears you like that end of the spectrum. Dip into ECM's bag and check out some of Jan Garbarek's late 80's recording: It Is Okay To Listen to The Gray Voice, All Those Born With WIngs - the former features David Torn. The period between Torn's individual fusion of Cloud About Mercury and I believe a successful operation to remove a brain tumour, you'll find a number of avant releases for CMP Records, e.g. Tripping Over God, What Means Solid Traveler?. I also suggest checking out Torn's first band Everyman Band - their first eponymous album for ECM is free jazz, but their second Without Warning is avant fusion and finds Torn's really leading most others into the field of recorded guitar/effects/tape loops: along with free saxophonist Marty Fogel the band blow up a storm - also look out for Fogel's solo abums on CMP Records. Check out the Maineri's, father and son - again recording for ECM. Sticking with ECM Records, check out Hal Russell - you should hear what he and the guys do with Fleetwood Mac's Oh Well!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 06:08 |
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I guess you've been the Fred Frith route already - but also check out the late rmaster of free form guitar Derek Bailey - there is every a duo free jazz album by Bailey and Metheny. And then there is Metheny's solo Zero Tolerance For SIlence.....................
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 06:13 |
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I second Hancock's Crossings ..also
Brubeck Brandenburg Gate:Revisited Modern Jazz Quartet Pyramid and Blues on Bach Coltrane Giant Steps Tyner Atlantis Lee Morgan Infinity Miles Davis Miles Smiles the Bad+ These Are the Vistas |
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BroSpence
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:02 |
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Some of my favorites:
Terje Rypdal - Whenever I Seem to Be Far Away Herbie Hancock - Mwandishi (better on vinyl), Thrust, Headhunters Where Fortune Smiles - McLaughlin Holland Surman Martin Berger Miles Davis - Live at Carnegie Hall, Files de Kilamanjaro, On the Corner Weather Report - I Sing the Body Electric, Weather Report Joe Zawinul - Zawinul Chuck Mariano & The Karnataka College of Percussion - Jyothi Ralph Towner - Solo Concert, Solstice Sound and Shadows, Trios Solos, Batik Egberto Gismonti - Sol Do Meio Dia Colin Walcott - Grazing Dreams, Cloud Dance Nana Vasconcelos - Saudades Oregon - Distant Hills Codona - Condona John McLaughlin - My Goals Beyond Pharoah Sanders - Wisdom Through Music Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds Alice Coltrane - Ptah The Eldaoud Courtney Pine - Destiny's Song +The Image of Pursuance Duke Ellington - Money Jungle (also look for the song Ko-Ko) Clifford Brown - All Stars Nat King Cole Trio Keith Jarrett - Survivor Suite, Bop-Be, Solo Concerts Bremen Lausanne, Hymn Spheres, Changes, Ruta & Daitya Pat Metheny - Pat Metheny Group, Brite Size Life, 80/81 Gary Burton - Dreams So Real, Jan Garabarek - Wayfarer Sun Ra - Visits Planet Earth/Interstellar Low Ways Dave Brubeck - Jazz Impressions of Eurasia, Jazz Impressions of Japan Art Blakey - A Night at Bird Land, Free For All Charles Mingus - Ah Um, or Oh Yeah! Stan Kenton - Adventures in Jazz Django Reinhardt (any compilation is usually pretty good, check out the song Tears) John Coltrane - Impressions, Interstellar Space, My Favorite Things, A Love Supreme Roland Kirk - Left & Right, Now Please Don't you Cry Beautiful Edith, I Talk With the Spirits, Volunteer Slavery Ornette Coleman - Body Meta, Skies of America, Free Jazz Thelonious Monk - Criss-Cross Modern Jazz Quartet with Laurindo Alemida - Collaboration Bill Evans - & Jim Hall Intermodulation, Sunday at the Village Vanguard Stan Getz - And JJ Johnson at the Opera House, Getz au Go Go, With Laurindo Almeida, Jazz Samba, George Benson - Beyond the Blue Horizon Tal Farlow - The Swinging Guitar Paul Desmond - With Strings Desmond Blue Vince Guaraldi Trio Edited by BroSpence - June 24 2008 at 12:03 |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:42 |
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I like the quiet, almost meditative kind of chamber jazz very much, so I recommend these albums:
Jan Garbarek - Dis Keith Jarrett - Arbour Zena (this is not exactly chamber jazz though, but certainly quiet) Oregon - Winter Light Eberhard Weber - Silent Feet |
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dwill123
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:35 |
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Thelonious Monk - "Straight, No Chaser"
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Visitor13
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:59 |
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http://www.tfjhp.blogspot.com/
^ A radio show promoting stuff from often little known musicians, recommended. Also tons of kickass modern jazz to be legally sampled here , a lot of it from Poland (me biased? No way) http://www.diapazon.pl/mp3.php?ws=0 On a similarly unbiased note, Krzysztof Komeda - 'Astigmatic' Oh, and: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=115636209 All great stuff, in need of additional exposure. I hope someone from Russia comes along and gives recommendations for Russian/Soviet jazz, now there's a goldmine few seem to have explored... |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 07:36 |
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While we're on a roll:
Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda Herbie Mann - Stone Flute Andrew Hill - Point of Departure Miles Davis - Big Fun Byard Lancaster - it's Not up To Us |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 04:36 |
You must get: Tauhid 1966 Izipho Zam (my gifts) 1969 Truly fantastic! Then you'll get to hear Sonny Sharrock as well. |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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MonkeyphoneAlex
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 17:17 |
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I recently started listening to jazz, so I guess we're in the same boat. Try Chick Corea, or Pat Metheny. And if you like avant, you should look into Sun Ra for sure. |
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"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST."
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 14:24 |
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Peter Brotzmann octet- Machine Gun (beware, absolutely insane free jazz)
Henry Threadgill- too much sugar for a dime infectious grooves utilizing tuba, two insane guitarists going nuts, and very complex and catchy rhythms.....have not checked out his other stuff, but I am sure it is just as good! Pat Metheny- Bright Size Life (great guitar driven jazz with none other than Jaco Pastorius on bass!!!!) |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 19:14 |
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"Went into a jazz bank, took out a jazz loan" Bruce Hampton.
Though not pure jazz, his first Late Bronze Age album has its moments, otherwise haven't seen anything else I'd recommend not already mentioned here. The ECM label is an excellent place to go for progressive jazz. Oh, wait, I got a few: John Ambercrombie, guitarist Bill Bruford's various Earthworks projects, If Summer Had It's Ghosts. Manhattan Transfer (just kidding)  Chuck Mangione (though some might dismiss him) Joe Jackson's Jumpin' Jive (hep hep) and also Body and Soul T Lavitz solo albums (most famous as one of Dixie Dreg's Keyboardists) Moraz-Bruford's albums Synergy, Barcodes (no Larry Fast, but Trey Gunn oddly enough who should have know better than to use that name) Passport Edited by Slartibartfast - July 09 2008 at 19:35 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Apsalar
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 23:37 |
Jake, I'm not sure if you will be looking for any of these on vinyl, but just a hint this album was originally released as simply Don Cherry. The re-issue goes by Brown Rice. I'd also recommend both Eternal Rhythm and Complete Communion by Cherry. Some other recommendations: Grachan Moncur III - Evolution Grachan Moncur III - Some other Stuff (those two records are essential, imo) Mal Waldron - The Quest Joe McPhee - Nation Time (the record label Hat Hut was inaugurated original the release this guys material) Sam Rivers - Fuchsia Sing Song Bobby Hutcherson - Dialogue Philip Cohran and the Artistic Heritage Ensemble - On the Beach (Played with Sun Ra throughout the 50's and early 60's) Herbie Nichols - The Complete Blue Note Recordings (a three disc box from a seriously under-rated pianist) Masayuki Takayanagi - any album with his 'New Direction for the Arts Unit' or Kaoru Abe If you are interested in the Japanese free-jazz scene of the 70's I can recommended a ton of discs worth your while. Oh, dusty groove is a great little vendor in the US for jazz - both lp and cd: http://www.dustygroove.com/ Edited by Black Velvet - July 09 2008 at 23:57 |
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Arspoetica
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 00:24 |
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debrewguy
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 23:45 |
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These are mainstream in their popularity, but still very much worth starting a jazz journey ...
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue Dave Brubeck - Take Five John Coltrane - Blue Train And if you really want to start with the basics, the roots, pick up Louis Armstrong's Hot Fives & Hot Sevens and Django Reinhardt anything. No avant gardness, but listening to the Gods' gift to Jazz won't hurt. |
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rileydog22
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 23:56 |
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I already have Kind of Blue and a couple of Coltrane albums. I've heard some ragtime and other early jazz before and it didn't really spark my interest.
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