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Roj
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Topic: Of public image... Posted: September 15 2008 at 10:27 |
^ Slarti! That was my first reaction, as soon as I saw this poll. I then saw you had posted last and am not at all surprised to see that you came up with the same answer. It would appear we have the same warped and twisted sense of humour!
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Posted: September 14 2008 at 08:50 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 14 2008 at 03:58 |
Okay, bad example then.
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Anderson III
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Posted: September 13 2008 at 17:22 |
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Posted: September 13 2008 at 14:49 |
Peter Gabriel, he is respected by Progheads and mainstream listeners.
He hasn't played with Genesis for 33 years and still Progheads dream with him back.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 13 2008 at 14:36 |
Anderson III wrote:
That's actually a good point! But I feel that people can be prejudice against artists without a carefully constructed image too. |
As shallow as such an opinion might be on paper, I think it's not so crazy... I mean, would you ever want to see live a death metal band who looked exactly like the main characters of Superbad, no matter how good their music was?
Edited by Toaster Mantis - September 13 2008 at 14:37
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Posted: September 13 2008 at 06:57 |
Ian Anderson followed by Zappa.
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 20:34 |
Ian Anderson has it all: brains, poetry, business savvy and humour. His interviews are often full of cleverness. Plus his smoked salmon is the best in the world!
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 11:34 |
Peter Gabriel.
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 20:26 |
Peter Gabriel always seemed to take himself & his music quiet seriously and with good reason and was more choreographed in his stage shows where Ian Anderson seemed more at ease with having fun entertaining with almost a Monty Python type humor knowing the music was killer anyway. Both great entertainers in my book.
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My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 18:46 |
Rick...back when he was -ing out on the brewskis...
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 18:17 |
Anderson Ian
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Anderson III
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 16:35 |
That's actually a good point! But I feel that people can be prejudice against artists without a carefully constructed image too. For instance in hip hop and pop music* it seems that if an artist doesn't have a certain kind of image the music will likely meet a poor reception. * pop music in a narrow sense. You know, the stuff MTV playes ?
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 04:01 |
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To put it another way, I think that Anderson's private persona is probably the furthest removed from his public image compared with the others |
Ain't nothing wrong with that in my book. I've noticed that a lot of people seem to have a stigma against musicians who put a lot of effort into their image, but if you really think about how art works it becomes obvious that this is only a problem when the image doesn't suit the music. It's like there's some prejudice that a well-considered image necessarily is a sign that the music won't have any substance, which a listen to Jethro Tull exposes as quite the leap in logic!
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 02:58 |
Peter Gabriel has always been one of my favorite frontmen and Genesis is one of my favorite bands. He's always put on a great theatrical show and has always been so energetic onstage.
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 00:41 |
Frank Zappa. He always seemed serious, but was always making a joke or being goofy. And at the same time always saying something meaningful and intelligent. And his music is good.
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 17:04 |
Ian Anderson definitely, he's so eccentric and fun to watch onstage. Every word he says, he really MEANS it.
But along those same lines, Roger Waters completely owned the stage when I saw him last summer. He spoke and you listened. I really liked that. If there was a choice for him, I'd vote for him.
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:59 |
Syzygy wrote:
The greatest public image of any artist on the site has to be The Residents, though, with Kraftwerk in second place. |
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:46 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
From that list, Ian Anderson - his image is probably the most contrived of any of those listed, but he's got his tongue planted firmly in his cheek most of the time and he's always entertaining. |
I thought that an artist's public persona had to be somewhat deliberately cultivated/constructed to some extent to qualify as an "image" in the first place...
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Absolutely, which is why I referred to his image as 'the most' contrived. To put it another way, I think that Anderson's private persona is probably the furthest removed from his public image compared with the others, whereas with Robert Fripp (from what I can discern) what you see is pretty much what you get; an incredible musician, but you wouldn't want to be trapped in a lift with him.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 16:37 |
Syzygy wrote:
From that list, Ian Anderson - his image is probably the most contrived of any of those listed, but he's got his tongue planted firmly in his cheek most of the time and he's always entertaining. |
I thought that an artist's public persona had to be somewhat deliberately cultivated/constructed to some extent to qualify as an "image" in the first place...
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