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Dim
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Topic: Heaviest album Ever? Posted: September 29 2008 at 00:06 |
I listen to a lot of music, as you might guess, some of that happens to be some pretty crazy stuff like Doom metal, Sludge metal, and a combination of the two, being post metal. These genres are considered two of the heaviest out there, and I think I found the heaviest album out there...
I mean holy crap, I dont think I've ever heard anything that even comes close to this, I mean one listen to the songs Genesis OR Circle, and I've pretty much outdone my amount of metal for the rest of the day. Christ guys I'm not joking, I'm being serious, absolutely bone crushing. I'm a huge fan of these guys later stuff and only rescently grabbed this one (being their second), and I cant tell if it's good or bad, it's just HEAVY!
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 01:42 |
Jesu's or Godlfesh's old stuff.
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 02:08 |
hmmm sometimes the issue of 'heavy' has also got to w the modern production and mastering process. I mean, Sabbath sounds positively light n' trippy to most current doom/stoner/sludge, likewise early thrash & death metal................
but that said, 'The Beyond' is indeed a head-crushingly weighty beast hahaha................other 'HEAVY' albums i love, not just the sound but also the feel:
Isis - Oceanic
Neurosis - Given To The Rising
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
King Crimson - Red / Thrak
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Khanate - s/t
Moss - Cthonic Rites
Boris - Absolutego
Revenge - Victory Intolerance Mastery
Godflesh - Songs of Love & Hate
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 17:10 |
Meshuggah´s Chaosphere is insanly heavy. I´m more into later Meshuhhan anyways, not really a big fan of Chaosphere, but it is HEAVY
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 20:30 |
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Dim
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 21:13 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 21:20 |
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 03:25 |
Probably some 200 gram triple vinyl.
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 20:16 |
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 21:17 |
darkshade wrote:
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Of course there are different types of heaviness! Good observation! I am always reading forums where people ask for the very first heavy metal song and there's always a couple of chaps who name something along the lines of "Mars, The Bringer of War" or "The Rite of Spring", which are of course classical pieces with no electric instrumentation in the least.
I guess there's just something about different music that makes things heavy. There's metal that I wouldn't know is heavy or not.
For my friends, bands like Decapitated and Nile are very heavy. I would call that type of music brutal, but not heavy. Likewise, Meshuggah, who tends to be brutal and thrashy can also be very, very heavy. "I" is one of the perfect examples.
I might just have to get some Cult of Luna stuff just so I can get a taste of what you're talking about. I tend to not like slow music though, so it'll be a risky buy, but I have rarely regretted trying new stuff.
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gr8dane
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 21:43 |
Deep Purple in Rock .That's heavy in my ears.
Ooops.Guess I picked the wrong era.
Or genre for that matter.Carry on.
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WinterLight
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 21:56 |
Maybe Morgion's Solinari or Cathedral's Forest of Equilibrium. Depends on how one interprets heavy, of course. Surely, Slayer's Reign in Blood should qualify.
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 22:25 |
Vompatti wrote:
Probably some 200 gram triple vinyl.
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Dim
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 22:46 |
topofsm wrote:
darkshade wrote:
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Of course there are different types of heaviness! Good observation! I am always reading forums where people ask for the very first heavy metal song and there's always a couple of chaps who name something along the lines of "Mars, The Bringer of War" or "The Rite of Spring", which are of course classical pieces with no electric instrumentation in the least.
I like your idea behind whats heavy and brutal, and while I dont find Mars, Bringer of war heavy, it's some of the most brutal stuff I've ever heard.
I guess there's just something about different music that makes things heavy. There's metal that I wouldn't know is heavy or not.
For my friends, bands like Decapitated and Nile are very heavy. I would call that type of music brutal, but not heavy. Likewise, Meshuggah, who tends to be brutal and thrashy can also be very, very heavy. "I" is one of the perfect examples.
Ironically enough, "I" is one of the few Meshuggah songs I know semi well. But I neither find that song heavy or brutal. Not heavy cause of the lack of discernable melody, the guitars are more for rythmic or percussive reasons rather than drop B face smashing. Not brutal cause it's too experimental, and instead of putting the focus on killing you, it's more musical than anything else.
I might just have to get some Cult of Luna stuff just so I can get a taste of what you're talking about. I tend to not like slow music though, so it'll be a risky buy, but I have rarely regretted trying new stuff.
Cult of Luna is not very fast, but what they lack in speed anf technicallity, they make up for in beauty and power. Start with their 2006 album Somewhere along the highway, if thats too mellow, get the Beyond, but dont say I didnt warn you! |
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:02 |
Dim wrote:
topofsm wrote:
darkshade wrote:
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Of course there are different types of heaviness! Good observation! I am always reading forums where people ask for the very first heavy metal song and there's always a couple of chaps who name something along the lines of "Mars, The Bringer of War" or "The Rite of Spring", which are of course classical pieces with no electric instrumentation in the least.
I like your idea behind whats heavy and brutal, and while I dont find Mars, Bringer of war heavy, it's some of the most brutal stuff I've ever heard.
Topofsm: Hmm, I usually think of more thrashy stuff as brutal. We may be defining more than what is heavy in this thread, if we continue much more.
I guess there's just something about different music that makes things heavy. There's metal that I wouldn't know is heavy or not.
For my friends, bands like Decapitated and Nile are very heavy. I would call that type of music brutal, but not heavy. Likewise, Meshuggah, who tends to be brutal and thrashy can also be very, very heavy. "I" is one of the perfect examples.
Ironically enough, "I" is one of the few Meshuggah songs I know semi well. But I neither find that song heavy or brutal. Not heavy cause of the lack of discernable melody, the guitars are more for rythmic or percussive reasons rather than drop B face smashing. Not brutal cause it's too experimental, and instead of putting the focus on killing you, it's more musical than anything else.
I guess I see what you mean. I think of more the opening minute or two, where it's just chugging in odd times and the toms on the drums are just full blast, which I consider heavy. It loses its brutality and heaviness once there's a ton of screaming for about 30 seconds, and then it goes into chugging (albeit in odd times and syncopation) which I consider heavy. I guess chugging (fast as in the opening section of "I" or in the slow crawling evil chugging you find so often in sludge and doom) means heavy for me. Thrashing, deep growling, and blastbeats or fast drumming in general are what defines brutal for me. I'd find it interesting to know what things mean for other people.
I might just have to get some Cult of Luna stuff just so I can get a taste of what you're talking about. I tend to not like slow music though, so it'll be a risky buy, but I have rarely regretted trying new stuff.
Cult of Luna is not very fast, but what they lack in speed anf technicallity, they make up for in beauty and power. Start with their 2006 album Somewhere along the highway, if thats too mellow, get the Beyond, but dont say I didnt warn you!
I'll definetely consider your reccomendations. I'll more than likely read a few reviews of their albums on the archives before I actually make a decision, but I definetely find heaviness a good thing in my music. |
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:06 |
Decapitated was quite brutal. Especially the first album.
early In Flames was heavy. Testament's Low is real heavy.
Another genre that's very heavy is funk. James Brown is probably the heaviest. But then you have some of the jazz-funk too.
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:09 |
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:54 |
faceofdoomness wrote:
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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Pussy   No JK. Nile - Annihilate the Wicked is really heavy. There's a part in one song, I forget the name where the drummer's still doing his triple bass drum hits but the tempo is very slow and the guitar too... SOOO HEAVY. I was going to say Chaosphere as well though. HEAAVVVYYY. Honestly I think that slow and sludge is heavier than fast and thrashy.
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 01:28 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
faceofdoomness wrote:
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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Pussy  
No JK. Nile - Annihilate the Wicked is really heavy. There's a part in one song, I forget the name where the drummer's still doing his triple bass drum hits but the tempo is very slow and the guitar too... SOOO HEAVY. I was going to say Chaosphere as well though. HEAAVVVYYY. Honestly I think that slow and sludge is heavier than fast and thrashy.
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Agree with these (and the Boris - Absolutego) , and would like to bring up Isis's heaviest album, Mosquito Control. One of my fav's of the band, and awesoemly heavey. Other Contender's Omega Massiff - Geisterstadt, the first Pelican EP, Shub Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite, Unearthly Trance - The Trident, OH!! theres a japanese band (but they sing/scream in spanish) called Corrupted. Their CD Dios Injusto HAS to be a top contender. give it a listen.
Edited by keiser willhelm - October 01 2008 at 01:40
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