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Syzygy
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Posted: November 15 2008 at 08:45 |
VDGG all the way.
I must listen to some more Opeth - a lot of people whose opinions I respect really rate them, but I can't see what all the fuss is about.
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'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Darklord55
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Posted: November 15 2008 at 08:34 |
No hesitation what so ever!! OPETH!
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JoaoPirucas
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Posted: November 15 2008 at 05:14 |
OPETH
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Visitor13
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Posted: November 15 2008 at 03:12 |
TGM: Orb
VdGG may be the more emotional of the two bands, but it's also their own undoing IMO. They are almost grotesquely so, their music collapses under its own weight.
And while it's true that VdGG did more than for their respective instruments than Opeth for theirs, it's also true that many other musicians did much more for those instruments than VdGG did. Basically if I start listening to VdGG nowadays, I'll end up listening to some heavy avantgarde. If I start listening to Opeth, I'll end up listening to... more Opeth. This is why I voted for Opeth. But anyway, I'm not bothered about VdGG taking this one, they're very talented musicians and I used to love them a lot a few years ago.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 21:51 |
I'm a more modern progger
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A Person
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 21:33 |
I pick VDGG because i love Hammill's lyrics combined with his amazing voice. I also enjoy VDGG's musical style more.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 20:41 |
This was a tough choice for me, I used to be huge on Opeth, and didn't like VDGG very much at all, now I just like both a good amount, went with VDGG.
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crimson87
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Joined: January 03 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:44 |
I 've just realized something , both bands have a "Still life" album. What a pointless founding!
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The Pessimist
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Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:30 |
Either way I'll actually be happy. I'm a massive fan of both bands.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:19 |
Tough tough call
Opeth by a tiny margin
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horsewithteeth11
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Location: Kentucky
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:11 |
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Okocha
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Location: Greece
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:31 |
VDGG
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Joined: September 27 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:27 |
VdGG rfor me, though I like Opeth. VdGG are one of the pioneering classic prog bands though, and I can't go against that.
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Open the gates of the city wide.... Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:15 |
Oh crap... Opeth fanboys scare me
Go VdGG, some of the most emotional music put to tape, especially from Pawn Hearts to Still Life, three 5-star albums IMO.
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Wanorak
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Joined: December 09 2006
Location: Canada
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:12 |
VDGG all the way! All take Peter Hammill's exceptional voice anyday over death growls. Opeth's vocals have improved greatly and once the growls go away completely I'll take them more seriously, because they make great music:)
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Lofcaudio
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Joined: November 04 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:10 |
Hercules wrote:
Opeth.
I just do not get VdGG. I can't stand Hamill's voice, there's virtually no decent guitar, no bass and the music is dark, and I hate dark. I do like Hugh Banton's keyboards, though.
Opeth are heavy and interesting, though the death metal growls take a bit of getting used to.
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I'd say that this sums up my feelings perfectly. Well said Hercules!
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Hercules
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Joined: June 14 2007
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:00 |
Opeth.
I just do not get VdGG. I can't stand Hamill's voice, there's virtually no decent guitar, no bass and the music is dark, and I hate dark. I do like Hugh Banton's keyboards, though.
Opeth are heavy and interesting, though the death metal growls take a bit of getting used to.
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TGM: Orb
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Joined: October 21 2007
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:53 |
VDGG by a factor of lots.
I like Opeth, but they're simply not on the same level... not even close.
VDGG cut the second best album ever, and hold four of my top 11. They're also my favourite band ever.
Hammill is miles ahead of any other vocalist, and can express complex emotions in a way that pretty much noone else does. Their piano and guitar inclusions are extremely tasteful and evocative. Jaxon's done more for the sax than any member of Opeth has done for their instrument, as far as I can see; Banton's formidable, often classically-based and heavily customised organs... sometimes takes a while to get what he's doing in a particular song, but when you do, it's amazing. Guy Evans is no slouch either, though I can see why his beat-and-massive-fill style might not suit some people.
I can't understand a vote for Opeth, but that's because I'm a shameless VDGG fanboy, and someone who's generally more of a classic prog man.
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Bern
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:19 |
I'd vote for VdGG almost against any other band. But in this case... I'll vote for VdGG! Still Life, Godbluff and Pawn Hearts are all some of my very favorite albums. Opeth are good but VdGG are the masterliness.
Edited by Bern - November 14 2008 at 16:20
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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crimson87
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Location: Argentina
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:18 |
I think the VDGG guys will have a hard time here. I ve' heard "Still Life" and it was a very good album , just that growling vocals are not for me. However PH voice is also an adquired taste.
A band that has 2 records in the top 10 just can't lose this early.
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