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mrcozdude 
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 Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:25 |
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way.
Edited by mrcozdude - December 18 2008 at 04:26
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:31 |
 Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway? 
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love!
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:55 |
mrcozdude wrote:
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way. |
Hmm ... I believe that everyone can believe as a dress. But it is the kind of mentality of those that you described that I do not like. And here I would like to conclude not be censored!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 18 2008 at 10:24 |
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love! |
It was a bad joke. CD is short in English for both Compact Disc and Cross Dresser.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: December 18 2008 at 18:30 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand...
Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style?
Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love! |
It was a bad joke. CD is short in English for both Compact Disc and Cross Dresser.
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Oh my GirlGod!!!
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CPicard
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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:35 |
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This thread is going to turn into a big, giant joke about homoeroticism.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: December 21 2008 at 04:57 |
CPicard wrote:
This thread is going to turn into a big, giant joke about homoeroticism. |
Which is exactly what I did not want to happen!
I say that in that case we would have missed a great opportunity to express opinions on what that friendship in its various aspects
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PetrucciPal
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 19:42 |
Yorkie X wrote:
I keep reading this over and over .. interesting .. funny thing is my last partner left me due to my interest in prog over her if only she had worn that Rush T shirt I asked her to put on. 
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Jesus, that's retarded. Rush is amazing! =D
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For the <3 of John Petrucci!
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PetrucciPal
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 19:44 |
mrcozdude wrote:
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way. |
Ahh, but that's where you're wrong! Prog is a genre, and it can be between anybody of either sex. It's too amazing to keep it from the opposite gender XD
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For the <3 of John Petrucci!
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Prospero
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 18:34 |
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You need one or two more failed relationships to realize the useless of
fondness in female friendship. Broken hearts are for a****les indeed, and if you do not understand that then you're probably out to lunch.
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alanterrill
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Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:57 |
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Well this is an unusaul thread, and I'm sorry to see that so many of you have been unlucky in love and with sharing your musical tastes with your partners. This is just to say it can work! I met my wife at school when I was 16. We'd both just been to the Plumpton Rock festival (1970) and spent our first evening discussing the bands we'd seen. We've grown up together listening to the same music and we love the same things . I think the only bands she doesn't like are the Beatles and the Cardiacs. But Van Der Graaf, Egg, Alamailmaan Vasarat. Lars Hollmer, Detektivbyran, Uz Jsme Doma - we both like the same. When we had children we stopped playing some of them, such as Yes as the kids couldn't stand them. After our son died (age 12) we started playing them again, as songs like 'Close to the Edge' touched a chord of hopefulness after the loss we suffered. But we survived, we love each other more than ever, and we're still going to see Van der graaf whenever we can! Have faith -you may yet meet your perfect partner.
Alan
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tamijo
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 05:11 |
Its all about giving something back.
Im sure if you show interest in whatever your female compagnion want to share, she will be interested in joining you for that Crimson consert.
And if you dont tell her that Christine A, is the worst crap, but instead says, wow that was interesting now listen to this track. ( I sugggest you dont start with the hardest/strangest)
Then you got a shot at actualy making her like (some off) what you like.
Even though i dont belive you should compromise with everyone/everywhere, love is diffrent.
In love you gotta accept the diffrence, you gotta love the diffrence.
Firgt for your right to listen to prog. sure !, but dont fight too hard, and think hard about how you fight.
Edited by tamijo - February 11 2009 at 05:17
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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sussexbowler
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 09:05 |
There are some interesting things going on here, and for me it is a little bit topical.
I was going through heartbtreak over Christmas, and at the time I was listening to 'Paradise Hotel' by the Flower Kings. Now you must understand that I do not listen to the words when I listen to music. I listen to the, er, music.
Anyway, there were two songs that absolutely killed me. 'Jealousy' might as well have been named after the girl's name as far as I was concerned, and on Christmas Day it brought me to tears.
As the girl in question hails from Eastern Europe (and I'm English) I suffered some more in 'Bavarian skies'. Dreadfully painful! Strangely, no one talks about these two tracks in their reviews...
I'm currently suffering some more with Sylvan's 'That's why it hurts'.
It's not Prog itself that is the cause, more the fact that it is the type of music that I listen to.
My emotions therefore breathe through Prog.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 09:46 |
sussexbowler wrote:
Now you must understand that I do not listen to the words when I listen to music. I listen to the, er, music. |
Why can't you listen to both words and music? I've heard The Flower Kings don't sing in Chinese. 
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Borris
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Posted: February 15 2009 at 01:13 |
Good topic. Prog is mostly boys music, there are exceptions, I'm not altogether sure why that is.
I found myself thinking it might be because Prog unlike most pop isn't addressed to women, it's message isn't generally "make love to me little girl" which a lot of pop and rock 'n' roll is. So as Prog isn't wooing the women, the women turn their back on it. It's a theory.
I too get emotionally involved in music, I find Yes "Close to the Edge" and "And You and I" very emotionally involved. Leonard Cohen too moves me greatly. I listen to more music by men than women, and i love that music, but I'd much rather make love to a women, I also enjoy women's company.
Maybe in art you can forge and find the perfection that alluded you in life. No that's not right as art is life for me.
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sussexbowler
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Posted: February 15 2009 at 05:29 |
Dear Notaproghead,
I don't know why I don't listen to the words. I just seem to hear the music. The singing ends up being a tone to me, which is probably why I can listen to Wagner.
I forgot to mention that 'The awakening' from Tomas Bodin's IAM album was another beautiful/painful experience, though it is not really a Prog song, more a love song in itself.
Again, although a love song I have no idea what it's all about...
If I listen to words then I might remember a line or a chorus, but simply as a combination of words as opposed to a meaningful statement.
Surely 'singing' implies using the voice as a musically instrument?
It's context are the politics...
As regards the 'women into Prog bit', Prog bands or characters do not go out of their way to be male icons that will appeal to female audiences. They are not run by marketing machines that will employ sex as a tool to sell the product.
You won't see them in areas of the Media where their sex appeal is a concern. It's always been that way really, but of course the World has become younger and with it more sexual. We therefore need youngsters who can be icons to become involved. In recent times the so-called youngsters that dabble DENY that they are playing Prog... It's supposedly unfashionable to do Prog... Thanks.
Equally, in a World that continues to 'Dumb-down', Prog (which really is more intellectual musically than the everyday fare) is flowing against the norm. The everyday Media therefore ignore its existence...
I'm afraid to say that it is the music that does all the talking. Maybe guys are more willing to experiment musically (and as a result eventually find Prog) whilst the girls perhaps have more pressing issues in life to deal with as they get older.
Sorry lads, it seems that Prog isn't sexy, but at least it is good...
To all the girls that have found Prog, we salute you!
Let us know what you think.
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Rabid
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 17:30 |
Find a girl with a healthy prog-rock collection. Niet problemski !
I don't think music HAS to have lyrics to be emotional.
Miles Davis seemed to squeeze more emotion from one note than most do from an entire album.
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl !
EZ, Bro
Edited by Rabid - February 23 2009 at 17:40
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"...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..."
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progkidjoel
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 04:25 |
Lol im 15 and i have this fat image in my head of winning a girl with either Marillion's Easter, Or Genesis' Behind The Lines lol...
so goddamn cheesy and so goddamn good.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 06:09 |
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree. 
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 10:06 |
NotAProghead wrote:
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree. |
I probably would also agree. However, I believe that this can not be true. Strangely, and I say this from personal experience, I met several men who loved girls (and vice versa) without loving the same music. Then, and this is my experience, I let my girlfriend for this reason!!!
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