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Ricochet 
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 Posted: December 24 2008 at 07:26 |
 JayDee wrote:
Rico is brokenhearted.
There is a thin line between love and hate, that much is true.
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"You don't love because, you love despite" (W. Faulkner) - that's the tricky issue. Too many people break up over nothing, let their flaws ruin their relationship (or do something utterly wrong to ruin it), too many people treat love superficially, too many people mistake love for sex...etc. I am however glad when friends of mine manage to pull a beautiful "love story" - and wish them to never change that (like my best friend, who will deeply shock me if ever breaking up with the girl he's with right now, that's how strong their bond looks like - like you, JayDee, having happily build a family  - like Raff & Micky, finally united for life since yesterday and having went through tough times to achieve that...and such)
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JayDee
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 07:39 |
Ricochet wrote:
JayDee wrote:
Rico is brokenhearted.
There is a thin line between love and hate, that much is true.
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"You don't love because, you love despite" (W. Faulkner) - that's the tricky issue.
Too many people break up over nothing, let their flaws ruin their relationship (or do something utterly wrong to ruin it), too many people treat love superficially, too many people mistake love for sex...etc.
I am however glad when friends of mine manage to pull a beautiful "love story" - and wish them to never change that (like my best friend, who will deeply shock me if ever breaking up with the girl he's with right now, that's how strong their bond looks like - like you, JayDee, having happily build a family - like Raff & Micky, finally united for life since yesterday and having went through tough times to achieve that...and such)
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Thanks man. I also agree with your second paragraph.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:32 |
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It's the best feeling in the world when you share it with someone.
It's the most lonely thing in the world when you give it to someone without it being returned.
It's pretty good for your ego when several people love you.
However, the darkest thing is that it's the most painful thing in the world when it is taken away from you. In all situations.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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WinterLight
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:49 |
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By the responses in this thread, one would conclude that love is a cliche.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:19 |
WinterLight wrote:
By the responses in this thread, one would conclude that love is a cliche.
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Yep. One as in you & you alone. The way you've initially put it, love sounds like chemistry.
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WinterLight
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:26 |
Ricochet wrote:
WinterLight wrote:
By the responses in this thread, one would conclude that love is a cliche.
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Yep. One as in you & you alone. The way you've initially put it, love sounds like chemistry.
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Perhaps Fromm's definition may not be the stuff of greeting cards or Harlequin novels, but it certainly does coincide with the view of Western philosophy and the great world religions.
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:35 |
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WinterLight
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 10:53 |
Ricochet wrote:
Greeting cards or Harlequin Novels are expressions of or about love.
No. I suggest that they're simply sentimentalizations of love.
Expressions of love can turn into cliques. Love (with the big L, preferably) can hardly be called a clique.
I think that you mean "cliche" rather than "clique." In any case, my point was that the characterizations of love delineated in this thread are indeed cliches.
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clarke2001
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 11:00 |
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Kim Wilde was right. Love is..what you want it to be.
To quote John Varley: Wouldn't it be sweet to be 17 again, and to have a broken heart for the first time again?
For me, love is the sheer joy and a reason for a living--I'm in love again, with a gorgeous lady, it's a fresh new start for me and it's great!
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zappaholic
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 19:47 |
Love stinks.
/j. geils ftw
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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CPicard
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 10:49 |
Love is the thema of most of the TOP 40 hit singles. Love sells perfume, chocolate, sex toys - not together. Love is just a tool. Love is love is love is love... Love is lava. Love is a protection. Love is boring. Luv, luv, luv, luv, luuuuuuv.
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JayDee
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 19:19 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 20:15 |
U2 - "Love is Blindness" Love is blindness I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night
Around me
Oh my heart
Love is blindness
In a parked car
In a crowded street
You see your love
Made complete
Thread is ripping
The knot is slipping
Love is blindness
Love is clockworks
And cold steel
Fingers too numb to feel
Squeeze the handle
Blow out the candle
Love is blindness
Love is blindness
I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night
Around me
Oh my love
Blindness
A little death
Without mourning
No call
And no warning
Baby...a dangerous idea
That almost makes sense
Love is drowning
In a deep well
All the secrets
And no one to tell
Take the money
Honey
Blindness
Love is blindness
I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night
Around me
Oh my love
Blindness Achtung Baby is U2's best work and one of the greatest albums ever.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 00:58 |
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it may not be all you need, but it's good have and to share
and of course most of us are here due to a little act of loving
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 31 2008 at 12:03
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topofsm
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 01:27 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
it may not be all you need, but it's good have and to share
and of course most of us are here due to a little act of loving
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I don't know. I'm a simple person, and I think all I really need is love to live a happy life.
But I like other things too.
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fusionfreak
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 08:27 |
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I have been alone for 2 years now,it's appalling:loneliness is a poison since I'm sure I'm able to bring something POSITIVE to anybody.
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
of searchers with the help from
crimson king
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Luke. J
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 08:52 |
Love is all you need.
To make it short, love can be everything and has so many faces, totally depends on the position. It can be painful, gappy, sad, true, false, enlightening, pleasant, beautiful, ugly, cruel..
My personal experience are maybe that diverse, too. But as I'm still young, there will be even more to experience.. /delete every cheesy statement in your mind, please..
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Jared
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 09:00 |
It's been such a very long time, I honestly can't remember.... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Jim Garten
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 09:05 |
The best thing that ever happened to me 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 12:03 |
Ricochet wrote:
too many people mistake love for sex...etc.
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I don't know about that, but I do love sex.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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