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    Posted: December 23 2008 at 23:00
I searched this and couldnt find it so here it is. Who was better? More Innovative? More complex? More original? Who do YOU prefer?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 23:09
I would take A LOT over Zappa- so in this case someone as amazing as Miles.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 23:11
Easy for me. Zappa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 23:20
Zappa, my musical idol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 23:59
Miles was changing, improving and stirring sh*t up from the day he started playing to the day he died.  

A master song writer, interpreter, player, social critic. And I suppose quite crazy at times.  He had perfect tempo, and the ability to know exactly who he needed to get he sound he was looking for for every creation.  Also he learned from the best of the best (Parker, Gillespie, Monk...etc)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:06
ooooo this is hard. might have to cone back to it so im ot voting but im leaning towards miles.

. . . . hmmmmm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:15
Zappa. Miles has some really cool stuff (though it isn't quite my thing for the most part), but Frank really busted his own chops trying to figure out new and creative things to do, from writing to performing to recording to producing. Though his early years were pretty sketchy and his later years rather watered down, his output in the 70s is stronger than basically any other musical act can ever hope to surpass, in my opinion. Mostly not perfect, but almost all absolutely amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:33
I was once planning the same battle, part of a tournament with these guys intended as finalists, but lost interest in the exercise (besides, I took too much flak for rigging it so that neither would be knocked out).  I really like and respect Zappa, but I have to go with Davis as better and more innovative, and I prefer Davis.  Now Davis vs. Coltrane....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:36
Originally posted by LiquidEternity

Zappa. Miles has some really cool stuff (though it isn't quite my thing for the most part), but Frank really busted his own chops trying to figure out new and creative things to do, from writing to performing to recording to producing. Though his early years were pretty sketchy and his later years rather watered down, his output in the 70s is stronger than basically any other musical act can ever hope to surpass, in my opinion. Mostly not perfect, but almost all absolutely amazing.
 
I do believe Miles did the exact same thing. He was always innovating in all aspects (writing, performing, album production, etc.). It seems to me you're not giving Miles enough credit because you don't seem to like his work very much. Anyway, both artists are top-notch innovators and such, but I think Miles had more soulful, touching albums.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 02:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 03:01
Zappa is original, funny and a musical genius, but a lot of what he does isn't actually that enjoyable to listen to, so my vote goes to Miles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 07:03
Zappa, with Miles not too far behind.
Both were true innovators & masterminds Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 07:45
I find Miles material more accesible for my ears than Zappa...It's true Zappa is as great as genius like Miles...but in the whole context I don't dig all Zappa albums as I do with Miles records...Not an easy poll anyway but I go Miles
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:27
Zappa is God...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:49
As much as I like FZ, Miles' innovation and influence in the jazz realm is just too great to overlook.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 10:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 18:53
I havent posted in a long time but this post made me want to voice my opinion!  This is probably one of the hardest person vs. person ever!  As much as I love Zappa I think Miles completely changed music for the 20th century...along with a few others(Zappa, Eno, etc).  I havent heard a Miles Davis album that I cant appreciate!  Merry Christmas.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2008 at 01:00
This is a freaking joke, right? As great as Zappa was, to even mention him in the same breath as the inimitable Miles Davis is asinine. What's next, Pink Floyd or Mozart?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2008 at 08:29
I'd take Pink Floyd over Mozart anyday.
This poll though is too difficult for me to actually vote in. I respect both of these guys so much.Both loved to experiment and push the boundries.It would be easy to dismiss Zappa because he could be so crude and silly,but he was a genius in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2008 at 10:32
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