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Cesar Inca
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 15:32 | |
Back in the year 1978, here's another live rendition of 'Miracles Out of Nowhere' with a totally different Hammond interlude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjFoILiRAA
Enjoy it!
And while you're at it, here's a live rendition of 'The Spider' preceded by a drum solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Raehw7zF0 - it is different from the "Two for the Show" item, and maybe it is a bit faster as well.
Enjoy it!
These guys really mastered the art of making progrssive rock in a most genuine fashion! Edited by Cesar Inca - February 25 2009 at 15:36 |
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djflex
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Posted: February 27 2009 at 17:31 | |
One of the first prog bands I was into...when i was very young in middle school, my parents asked me what I wanted as a birthday present and I chose tickets to kansas, my parents were pretty cool and took me to the show...what a great memory.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 27 2009 at 19:42 | |
Did your parents actually like Kansas at all? My Mom was crazy for Kansas back in the day. |
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djflex
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Posted: February 27 2009 at 20:35 | |
my mom did, she still sees some shows
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ark-amps
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 23:10 | |
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Jeff Schu
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 02:08 | |
Kansas is awesome among my favorite prog bands. I had the pleasure of seeing them some years back (around 1998 I think???) as a special guest opening band for Yes. I wasn't familiar with them at the time but they were great. |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 02:36 | |
If it does, I haven't seen it. Incredible really - if you mention Kansas to anyone unfamiliar with them, the immediate assumption is they're just another 1970s AOR band, as most people only know them for that hit; a while back I had that situation with a couple of friends - so I played them Magnum Opus, Journey From Mariabron and Cheyenne Anthem... they changed their minds. |
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 10:18 | |
Great, really great!
While we're at it, let's check all the remaining video clips from that 1980 concert: the video quality is a bit sub par, yet the material and deliveries are awesome. The renditions of 'No One Together', 'Paradox', 'Portrait' and 'Miracles Out of Nowhere' are incredible. There is also some solo material there, featuring 'Mask of the Great Deceiver' (Walsh vs. Dio?).
Even the less inspired material from the "Audio-Visions" album acquires some extra power in these excellent live renditions.
Kind regards.
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ark-amps
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 16:06 | |
Gentle Giant is the only other "prog" band that I respect as much as Kansas, no other rock bands have affected me as much as those two, except for maybe the Beatles, but they aren't normally considered prog;)...
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Garion81
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 17:50 | |
I don't know. In my mind those Kirshner shows in 1`974 and 5 are the best. Maybe the only live recording of the entire M&M/Pinnacle live as well as Death of Mother Nature Suite and Journey to Mariabronn way before they were big.
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ark-amps
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 18:15 | |
The Kirshner shows were awesome no doubt, but Walsh's voice really soared during the late '70's and early '80's;)
I just heard the original demos of Vinyl Confessions with Steve Walsh on and with Walsh's tunes -on youtube; VERY strong material was lost when Steve left after that in my opinion!!!!! |
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bassman4
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 21:53 | |
I grew up a Kansas fan ,saw them live many times. great band! met Kerry once in the studio , he played old 2" masters with new parts he added . I was drooling and slobbering like any true fan would do .
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ark-amps
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 16:03 | |
Man I wish I could have been there for THAT!!!!! But I did get to hang out with him at the 2003 Summer NAMM show in Nashville as that was the year I started working for FireWire Strings and shortly after sent him some samples -he loved what he heard and felt - and then he asked for an endorsement which of course I was thrilled about;) I still email with him but hope to hang out again soon, cool guy for sure;) |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 18:57 | |
The thing about Kansas is that they didn't make AOR music, per se, they made music that became AOR. And even the couple of songs that were played ad nauseum were actually pretty decent songs.
You may think I'm making this up but, Kerry used to live in Sandy Springs and my Mom made a big painting for him. I got to visit him at his home with her when we delivered it to him. Edited by Slartibartfast - March 06 2009 at 19:07 |
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bassman4
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Posted: March 09 2009 at 19:51 | |
Yes ,I've heard that he was in Dunwoody / Sandy springs. When I was in the studio with him, it was in his home studio [I think Covington, Ga.] |
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Laszlo
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Posted: March 16 2009 at 18:35 | |
My mobile phone wallpapper for last 3 years. Nuff said.
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 20 2009 at 20:57 | |
I miss Robby.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: May 20 2009 at 21:13 | |
My computer desktop wallpaper for last 2 years. Nuff said. BTW, anyone know who that band is on his tshirt? |
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 20 2009 at 21:29 | |
Don't know, Bob, but it's my desktop now.
It was previously the centerpiece of The Point of Know Return Album....time for a change. |
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Progosopher
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Posted: May 20 2009 at 21:46 | |
The missus is from Kansas. She moved to get away from the flatness and the wind. The Flint Hills are okay, but try the northwestern corner of the state - it's very different from typical Kansas topography.
As to the band, well I think their terrific, even though the friend who turned me on to them many years ago now compares them to Vogon poetry. He's wrong.
My favorite albums are:
Leftoverture: They clearly had a hard rock and poppish bent, and wrote many short songs for their previous albums, most of which were overlooked, and justifiably so IMHO. Leftoverture was when those pop aspirations came up to their prog aspirations. A deserved hit for them. And I don't mean .
Song for America: Much better than the albums that sandwich it. They matured as a band after their first album and it really showed.
Somewhere to Elsewhere: Great return to form and lineup.
Monolith: This one is not greatly appreciated on this site, and I can understand why. It is not spectacular, but the band is in good form, and I like a lot of the songs. FYI: The name Kansas comes from the Kansa indians. The name means "People of the South Wind." Being part Native American myself, I'm always glad to see the first nations get some appreciation and notice.
My most vivid memory is seeing them live during the Vinyl Confessions tour. I wasn't so into the album, but I wanted to see them perform. I had a good time and enjoyed it, but unfortunately they weren't at their best. Steve Walsh was a bit under the weather. He played well, but his signature stage antics were almost completely absent. Robby Steinhardt tried to make up for it, but it wasn't the same. What really effected me though, was the music played in between acts. Alvin Lee opened, and he ripped the place apart. During the break, Heaven and Hell by Vangelis was played. I'd never heard it before. This was before Chariots of Fire. I was floored. Vangelis has been one of my absolute favorites for years now. So, I can thank Kansas for turning me on to Vangelis. Who'd a thunk it?
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