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    Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:12
I have an interesting question. The 1972 ELP album Pictures At An Exhibition was recorded before ELP's first album at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970. However, on the very beginning of the album, you hear the band announce to the crown that they are going to play Pictures at An Exhibition, and the crowd goes crazy. How did the crowd know about this piece? There's no way every audience member was classically trained, so not everyone there knew about Mussorgsky's work. So obviously somehow they knew about this work. But how?
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Points: 1383 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:19

Originally posted by Yanns Yanns wrote:

, you hear the band announce to the crowd that they are going to play Pictures at An Exhibition, and the crowd goes crazy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:21

Originally posted by Yanns Yanns wrote:

I have an interesting question. The 1972 ELP album Pictures At An Exhibition was recorded before ELP's first album at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970. However, on the very beginning of the album, you hear the band announce to the crown that they are going to play Pictures at An Exhibition, and the crowd goes crazy. How did the crowd know about this piece? There's no way every audience member was classically trained, so not everyone there knew about Mussorgsky's work. So obviously somehow they knew about this work. But how?

 

Pictures had been recorded live on film on 9th dec 1970 in front of a audience at the london lyceum for general release..The album itself which was recorded at newcastle city hall 26th march 1971 & initiall released thereafter would have given fans plenty of time to know the work as it was also  part of there gig routene anyway  before album release or recording from newcastle infact.

 

i don't know where you got 1972 ffrom thats Trilogy



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Released in US 4th Jan 1972

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Points: 999 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:30
Yeah I meant release date when I said 1972
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:30

Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

Released in US 4th Jan 1972

 

What US date gotta do with anything?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:31

Originally posted by Yanns Yanns wrote:

Yeah I meant release date when I said 1972

 

I'm sorry but you cant go by a US date..even though it makes all the explination rather difficult

 

November 1971 is the correct UK original release date for pictures

 

 



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Points: 999 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:32
I'm just saying, the release date, it doesn't have to do with anything. I'm just curious as to how the crowd knew about the work in 1970 at the Isle of Wight.
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:32

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:36
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

 

 

 

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Points: 999 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:36
Ok, thanks for the clarification guys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:43

 

Just as a matter of intrest even though Pictures was released after Tarkus' it was infact recorded before but was not considered a second release due to it not entirly their own work but was later released due to demand & if i recall it was at some stage given away free with the Tarkus album.

 
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:45
Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

March 26th linda (Newcastle)

Yeh, I type too fast sometimes... but the Jan. 4th release date... was not just the US...
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:47
Don't remember anything about Pictures being given away free with Tarkus. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:48
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

March 26th linda (Newcastle)

Yeh, I type too fast sometimes... but the Jan. 4th release date... was not just the US...

As bullet states the jan 4th release but hes a YES fan,what do they know?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:50

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Don't remember anything about Pictures being given away free with Tarkus. 

Yep i rember my father having them in a give away 2 pack..He says it was done in a lot of stores in the UK

Possible done to get shut of the Island records 1st issues to make way for the re-issues on Manticore records at some point...Possible or just country wide superstore promotiion i don't know

 



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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:52
Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

March 26th linda (Newcastle)

Yeh, I type too fast sometimes... but the Jan. 4th release date... was not just the US...

As bullet states the jan 4th release but hes a YES fan,what do they know?

What I mean was that it was actually released in the US and the UK on Jan. 4th, 1972..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:56
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

The Isle of Wight was ELP's second gig.  As Karny said... The Pictures album was not recorded before that gig.

Aug. 23, 1970 - Plymouth Guildhall, Plymouth UK - (parts of Pictures performed)

Aug. 29, 1970 - Isle of Wight concert (parts of PAAE were performed)

Dec. 9, 1970 - Lyceum Ballroom (PAAE performed and movie filmed)

Mar.28, 1971 - City Hall in Newcastle, UK gig (album recorded) and released on Jan. 4, 1972

March 26th linda (Newcastle)

Yeh, I type too fast sometimes... but the Jan. 4th release date... was not just the US...

As bullet states the jan 4th release but hes a YES fan,what do they know?

What I mean was that it was actually released in the US and the UK on Jan. 4th, 1972..

 

How can it be in any case my label states '71 & the chart below re-inforces that

REGION RELEASE DATE LABEL MEDIA ID NUMBER FEATURES
UK November 1971 Island LP HELP1 gatefold cover
US January 1972 Cotillion LP/8T ELP 66666 gatefold cover
JPN 1972 Atlantic LP P-8200A gatefold cover, lyric insert
GER/NET   Island LP 85804XT gatefold cover
UK 1974 Manticore LP K35501 gatefold cover
GER   Manticore LP 87 226ET gatefold cover
US 1980 Mobile Fidelity LP MFSL-1-031 original master recording
RUS 1981 Melodia LP C90163834 unique cover
US   Atlantic CD/CS SD 19122  
US Nov/Dec 1993 Victory CD/CS VC2 0018 digital remaster
UK 1996 Essential CD ESMCD 342  
US May 21, 1996 Rhino CD 72225  
EUR 2001 Castle CDX CMRCD167 digital remaster w. bonus track
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Points: 401 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 21:59
Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:


As bullet states the jan 4th release but hes a YES fan,what do they know?



This Yes fan knows that pictures was released in the UK during November '71 for £1.49 , or at least that's what the sleeve of my latest remastered copy states

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 22:17
Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:


As bullet states the jan 4th release but hes a YES fan,what do they know?



This Yes fan knows that pictures was released in the UK during November '71 for £1.49 , or at least that's what the sleeve of my latest remastered copy states

 

Well your a nice little yes fan then..Yes are awesome believe me
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