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    Posted: November 14 2010 at 05:42
Tarkus for sure
 
also to some extent Duke where at least 3-4 songs go unplayed on side two. That said it does have Duke's Travels which is way better than anything on Tarkus Side 2.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:53
Hmmm... probably the second side of In the Land of Grey and Pink. It's such a change of pace from the first that sometimes i'm not in the mood
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2009 at 05:40
Albums can be a bit like the live show where the group kicks off with their most immediate tracks and then slides into the deep and meaningful stuff. I know they are not progressive, but I always liked Nazareth because they rocked from start-to-finish. It is also surprisingly easy to get used to the track order which has been decided by someone at a record company. Abbey Road is a blatant mis-sequence due to error, but it still works. I have the cassette version of Boston's first album and now I cannot listen to it in vinyl album order, because I expect a different track next. In answer to the question, it depends on my mood. I tend to pick out individual tracks some days and on others I listen to a side (either one or two) or the whole album.     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 09:06
Tarkus does not take my vote, but TAAB does. I've heard it enough times to understand the second side is only a mere remix of the first.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 08:07
I'll have to vote for Tarkus too Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 13:13
When I turn my CD over in the player I don't hear anything. TongueLOL

I have no choice but to ignore the second side. Angry


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 11:15
The only album i allmost allways listen too all 4 sides , is the Lamb.
Too me its like watching a movie, wouldent want to stop half way.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 08:31
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Okay, I have to say I find some of this crazy.  I mean, when I said early on that I listen often to just side 1 of Tarkus and  A Wizard (and caught a ribbing for it) that was one thing.  Tarkus side 1 stands alone, Wizard side 1 stands alone... makes sense, they're contained concepts.  But, to choose one of the more egregious examples, to not listen to side 2 of Thick as a Brick?!?!?  That I could never think of doing; it's all or nothing, that's a whole piece. 

I guess this thread makes me realize that I'm a purist for the most part.  Even with iTunes, 99% I play whole albums, in order, even if the album is a collection of songs and not some concept through (and when it comes to vinyl, it's time to just leave it alone, play that whole record).  If I don't listen to a whole album in one sitting it's just because of time constraints.  Some days you can't take in all of Tales from Topographic Oceans or Tago Mago at once, so you catch up on it the next day. 

Now there are times when you need to hear that one song; in a case like that I'm not so crazy as to think, well I want to hear that one 6 minute song so I'm going to have to find 40 or more minutes to do it since I'm a slave to the whole record.  And of course there are times when you don't need to hear that one song.  "Money" by Floyd was mentioned above and it's a good example; who, of a certain age, hasn't heard that song enough on the radio over the decades?  That, or say "Stairway to Heaven", can be skipped often, despite their high quality, just due to the over-saturation of my addled ears.  This way, when on occasion I do play them, it's a special event.

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I agree in that I listen to the whole of TAAB (and quite often, really), but must say I much prefer Side One. If I only had 20 mins I know which of the two I'd play...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 06:35
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I wouldn't listen to Gates of Delirium if I had to sit through the other tracks on Relayer too (I do occasionally listen to "side 2" but I still don't like it).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 06:15
Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

I never was a big fan of Pillow of Winds and Fearless and lets face it, Meddle is all about Echoes.  So side 2 was always first.
 
Fearless is my favourite song on Meddle!
 
Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

Also I tried to put Shine On together 1-9 but I could not get the fading right from one track to another for the rest of the album.  So that is why I sinned, I hope all is forgiven.
 
I've done that (on minidisc - remember them?) with pretty good results. I liked it anyway!
 
If I don't like a track I'll happily skip it. I don't care if the artist intended their album to be listened to from start to finish in that order, I bought it and I'll listen to the parts I like, in the order I want.
 
I wouldn't listen to Gates of Delirium if I had to sit through the other tracks on Relayer too (I do occasionally listen to "side 2" but I still don't like it).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 05:34
It used to be the way, that all the "best" tracks on an album could be found on Side One and the less interesting tracks were relegated to Side Two with the exception of  perhaps the opening track. This formula still prevails all though not quite so common in prog as in pop music. I would listen to Side One over and over and then eventually discover the merits ot Side Two eg: Tarkus, Thick As A Brick or In The Court of The Crimson King. I find that it is not so much the quality of the music but the time length of the album which can be a detracting factor. I try however, to listen to both sides of an album, in order to fully appreciate (?) it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 04:11
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Sides 3 & 4 of 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'. If any double album should have been a single disc, this is it!Disapprove
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It seems the critics suggest I may have  been too kind for even liking the first half of 'The Lamb'
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 02:57
I very rarely skip over songs, I enjoy listening to albums as a whole. There may be some songs I don't appreciate as much, but I'll still usually listen to them anyway.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 02:13
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Sides 3 & 4 of 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'. If any double album should have been a single disc, this is it!Disapprove
Sweet KeeeRIST!  It just keeps mounting.  Laz, you've quite innocently posted a thread that has brought out something really ugly, something I'd rather not know about.  I've got to unsubscribe from this thread; I'm going to look away.Broken Heart
 
It seems the critics suggest I may have  been too kind for even liking the first half of 'The Lamb'
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 22:19
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Sides 3 & 4 of 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'. If any double album should have been a single disc, this is it!Disapprove
Sweet KeeeRIST!  It just keeps mounting.  Laz, you've quite innocently posted a thread that has brought out something really ugly, something I'd rather not know about.  I've got to unsubscribe from this thread; I'm going to look away.Broken Heart

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 21:06
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I totally disagree. Sorry, but Bitches Crystal, the Only Way, Infinite Space and Time and a Place are great side 2 tunes. Admittedly, Jeremy Bender and Are you Ready Eddy are throw aways,  but I think because Tarkus itself is such a powerful piece, it's hard to follow up with single songs on the second side. Had it been a longer piece and taken up more of side two (a la BSS) then maybe it wouldn't be thought of in this way.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 13:15
Sides 3 & 4 of 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'. If any double album should have been a single disc, this is it!Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 07:53
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

I totally agree about Tarkus



I totally disagree. Sorry, but Bitches Crystal, the Only Way, Infinite Space and Time and a Place are great side 2 tunes. Admittedly, Jeremy Bender and Are you Ready Eddy are throw aways,  but I think because Tarkus itself is such a powerful piece, it's hard to follow up with single songs on the second side. Had it been a longer piece and taken up more of side two (a la BSS) then maybe it wouldn't be thought of in this way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 06:38

King Crimson does a very good job at making me ignore side 1.   I usually do that for both Lizard and Islands.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2009 at 05:21
Okay, I have to say I find some of this crazy.  I mean, when I said early on that I listen often to just side 1 of Tarkus and  A Wizard (and caught a ribbing for it) that was one thing.  Tarkus side 1 stands alone, Wizard side 1 stands alone... makes sense, they're contained concepts.  But, to choose one of the more egregious examples, to not listen to side 2 of Thick as a Brick?!?!?  That I could never think of doing; it's all or nothing, that's a whole piece. 

I guess this thread makes me realize that I'm a purist for the most part.  Even with iTunes, 99% I play whole albums, in order, even if the album is a collection of songs and not some concept through (and when it comes to vinyl, it's time to just leave it alone, play that whole record).  If I don't listen to a whole album in one sitting it's just because of time constraints.  Some days you can't take in all of Tales from Topographic Oceans or Tago Mago at once, so you catch up on it the next day. 

Now there are times when you need to hear that one song; in a case like that I'm not so crazy as to think, well I want to hear that one 6 minute song so I'm going to have to find 40 or more minutes to do it since I'm a slave to the whole record.  And of course there are times when you don't need to hear that one song.  "Money" by Floyd was mentioned above and it's a good example; who, of a certain age, hasn't heard that song enough on the radio over the decades?  That, or say "Stairway to Heaven", can be skipped often, despite their high quality, just due to the over-saturation of my addled ears.  This way, when on occasion I do play them, it's a special event.

P.S. Micky:  Looks like no one got your reference.  Funny though.

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