The Feed-back (experimental) and Ennio Morricone |
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Logan
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Topic: The Feed-back (experimental) and Ennio Morricone Posted: April 04 2010 at 18:46 |
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So, I've been think about this for a long time, but didn't want to be laughed at. Do people think there's a case for Morricone in Prog-Related (skip to The Feed-back now if you like)?
Here's a few Morricone vids to get people started (the first vid is from the gloriously psychedelic year, 1968): And since Oldfield is in whose Tubular Bells is the Exorcist theme, how about Morricone's Exorcist 2 theme? Anyway, I doubt this site is ready for Morricone yet, but how about The Feed-back which features Ennio Morricone? Now this I think deserves a place as a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jlpOqg6zsI (edit, embedding disabled, I should always check those when posting so a URL instead)
It's really a contunuation of Gruppo Improvvisazione Nuova Consonanza (which features the amazing Egisto Macchi)
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Logan
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 12:50 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sorry to bump this, but I'd love to get some Feed-back.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 13:50 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'll check this asap
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Logan
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:45 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thanks, and I can make more music available for The Feed-back to interested parties.
I'm actually very surprised that this topic didn't get a reaction since I would have thought a suggestion of Ennio Morricone for PA would provoke response (wouldn't expect the same level of feedback for The Feed-back from the general PA community).. |
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Posted: April 27 2010 at 04:18 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thanks for reminding me of this suggestion
I think he was an inspiration to the proto-prog movement (Emerson comes to mind) but that doesn't qualify for inclusion (although prog-related could be an option?).
Is he proto-prog or prog-related?
I wouldn't be comfortable placing him in proto-prog so perhaps prog-related is the proper place for him?.
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The Feed -Back is interesting suggestion, but (besides of its Italian origin) sounds more as krautrock, than JRF for me
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Posted: April 27 2010 at 07:27 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The EM samples are very nice (The Devil Is A Woman sounds so Zeuhl! ), the question would be "how much of his output is like that?" The Feed-back sample was fabulous, and it does sound krautrock-ish indeed. Maybe Psyche-prog would be their best home on PA?
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Logan
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Posted: April 27 2010 at 12:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
To be honest, I don't know why I automatically suggested The Feed-back for JRF (I think I had only just got the album when I quickly suggested it here without listening properly). I was thinking about putting a different track on youtube (there are only three tracks). It's experimental (pretty avant), utilises improv, has a significant jazz component, but also a psych element with Krautrock qualities for sure. I think it might be fine for Avant. Pysch I wouldn't see it in.
It did remind me of various psych (or cosmic) jazz-rock pieces (even has a track called "Quasar" and so maybe that got me associating more with Mwandishi styled music but I do find similarities with such stuff, though this is less polished). As for Morricone, I think he has a fair amount of music like his "The Devil is a Woman" (aka Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore). Incidentally, this from Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) is one of my favourites of his. Great stuff, imo (had meant to include that vid in my initial post): Edited by Logan - April 27 2010 at 12:03 |
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Logan
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 19:57 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Here's another The Feed-back track. If the Krautrock or Avant teams are interested, I can provide more music.
http://musicophiliadaily.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/audio-the-feed-back-kumalo-1970/ |
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:02 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wondering: doesn't a band have to be from Germany to be Krautrock?
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Logan
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:06 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No. It's not just regional; it involves a sound and approach that can be fit for bands/artists hailing from other countries..
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 21:03 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Alrighty.
I'm 100% in favour of Morricone having a place on the site, but of course my opinion doesn't really matter when it comes to that. I'll check out that Feed-Back too, looks very interesting |
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Sounds pretty Avant to me - with a World Music flavour.
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I got about 30-40 full-on progalbums by Morricone covering Protoprog/RIO/Avant (loads), Jazzrock-Fusion, Psychedelic-Spacerock/Symphonic and Krautrock (& postrock)... But he's got 5-600 titles that's not related to any kind of Prog, so I don't know. |
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Logan
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 12:51 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
^ Awesome! I was hoping you'd respond to this topic as you know far more than I. And that MorriconeRocks has posted a lot of great stuff on youtube.
Thanks to all for your posts and interest. Every post matters (unless people are misinformed). I think Morricone has a really strong case for PA both due to his music and he's influenced many in progressive rock, but there have been concerns about including soundtrack/ library music composers even if the music fits. I support having such composers in PA (but even if Morricone were accepted, the prospect of preparing such an addition is scary and would be good to have a few people working on it). At the least, I hope this leads to more people discovering Morricone (well, I guess most here would know some Morricone, but more and different Morricone) and related artists such as Egisto Macchi (really appreciate the recommendation before of Macchi). Edited by Logan - June 18 2010 at 13:18 |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Don't know if you had the chance to listen to the samples Marty, but I'd appreciate your impressions on the music.
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IMO a good call for Avant same goes for Feed-Back
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Logan
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Posted: June 20 2010 at 21:37 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thanks for the feed-back, Chris.
I mentioned The Feed-back/ Gruppo d'improvvisazione... to the Avant team with a link to this thread this morning, and I hope both The Feedback and Morricone can find a place ere too long (though I rather expect Morricone will take much longer to find its way into PA -- huge discography --, and I wonder how much of Gruppo will have to be evaluated since The Feed-back, though it could have a separate listing, is a Gruppo... project). |
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^ Greg, judging by the albums for Morricone you highlighted ( 3 or 4 out of 80?) he has a place here. Perception should never punish reason
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