The Prog Fan On The Other Side

People who think Can is anything other than the greatest band ever in the history of civilization

I feel the same about: Comus, Magma, Weidorje, GY!BE, Tortoise, Faust, Amon Duul II, Captain Beefheart, Mr. Bungle, etc. ad nauseum

Dream Theater haters. I can see where they're coming from (sort of) but I never understood the intense dislike that (in my humble opinion) one of the most consistently great bands ever gets.

Edited by VanVanVan - May 12 2010 at 21:25

I hate the people who drone on and on and on and on and on and on about one or two particular golden era bands- Yes and Genesis are the prime suspects here- and talk as though all music released after 1979 or so is worse than the Holocaust.

 

This is not an attack on Yes and Genesis, they are both great bands. it's the behaviour of these particular fans I am saying annoys me.

People who love 80's AOR but consider Lady Gaga untalented and only-in-it-for-the-money.

gottagetintogetout wrote: People who love 80's AOR but consider Lady Gaga untalented and only-in-it-for-the-money.

oi, you, yes you! Stand Still Laddy!

besides I don't "love" 80s AOR. I very much like AORish prog (Yes, Genesis, Asia,  first of all, on a lesser scale bands like Pallas and Elpowell) and I enjoy other mixtures of AOR style music (Eric Clapton's mid to late 80s albums, for instance) of the semi-pure AOR, I sort of like Starship, I can listen to bits of Foreigner.... If anything I like Synthrock that would sound sort of like Zee or Under Wraps by Jethro Tull (which is terrible) but it doesn't really exist!!!    <<< long explanation doesn't mean I'm making excuses




Edited by RoyFairbank - May 12 2010 at 22:08

HTCF wrote: VanVanVan wrote:   I have a feeling that I'm going to get hammered for this.  I can't believe someone with a Western Culture avatar could like crap like that! Just kidding, I used to listen to loads of DT, and still love their first album like a child (not mine though ).

 Yeah, don't have a Cow man, put a sock in it! ;)

Seriously, hypothetically-speaking, I would be peeved by those who claim to know the boundaries of progressive rock and those who believe in a simple prog/ non-prog dichotomy and don't recognise that there are fuzzy edges (very nebulous), appreciate different perspectives, attitudes and definitions, and don't recognise that there are degrees of prog, but the degree depends very much on the individual.

Also people who don't recognise differences between progressive music, progressive (adjective) rock, and Progressive Rock (noun).  Not all Progressive Rock is progressive, and not all progressive rock need be Progressive Rock (i.e. Prog).  And certainly not all progressive music is progressive rock, yet some seem to imply that that is the case.

Too often I have felt that people's notions of being "progressive" has been far too limited and I feel the word is used inaccurately all too often.

Also, people who claim subjective truths as objective truth when it comes to music.  One even find ridiculous statements sometimes where people claim that something is not even musical or music that clearly fits the definitions.

Also, people who can't tolerate others expressing their dislike of the music they like and those who cannot seem to disassociate personal taste (part of that comes from experience) from what has value (not just personal value, but what is good).

People who say "Which is better?" when they really mean "which is better for you?" And those who go far in making competitive sport of music, or at least take results of such fun competitions (for instance Christian Vander vs. Neal Morse) seriously.

Prog fans who won't give non-English language bands a chance (even if it's instrumental!).

Prog fans who won't step out of their comfort zones to try something new (and discuss such music in a non-deprecatory way with people who are familiar with such music).
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Those who don't wish to share their true feelings for fear of offending the fans.

Those who share their feelings in order to offend the fans.

T=hose who don't know what they're talking about.

Those who make little insults, or blanket biassed statements,  then won't engage others in discussion when others respond.

People who vote in polls before reading the question and opening post.

Prog fans who complain about other Prog fans.

Really anyone who does not accept my word as Divine.


Edited by Logan - May 12 2010 at 22:28

Logan wrote: Prog fans who won't give non-English language bands a chance (even if it's instrumental!).

Yeah but some of us don't like instrumental bands

Logan wrote: Prog fans who complain about other Prog fans.

That seems to be the original sin of Prog fans

People who dismiss anything that fits regular harmonic and melodic molds and who accept as high art anything that resembles noise. 

I am constantly aggravated that no one on PA (not to mention my friends in the real world) can grasp the awesomeness of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, the best band of the 21st century bar none.