Floyd reunion looks unlikely

sturoc1 wrote: I guess no one wants to believe fact .( see prev post by me)

Worked a bunch of shows with him so Yes.
It is just as good as PF, missing DG & RW's vocals.

He can't even sing anymore so even Australian Floyd does a better job than him.

And Waters solo stuff always sounded like Pink Floyd or at least Final Cut but when RW does some Pink Floyd it doesnt sound like Pink Floyd while Gilmour solo stuff is far enough from PF Gilmour PF songs sounds like PF.

Very good points, and well said. 

Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - July 13 2010 at 19:09

oh yes, without the others Waters' ideas might be as... critically challenged shall we say as arranging for general consumption is best left to DG. ABITW2 would have been just a verse, chorus, solo and then onto the next bit.

Comfortably Numb is clearly a Waters DG "collaboration." Waters' sinister vox contrasts so effectively with Gilmours soaring counterpoint. Frankly only he seems to be able to sing his own parts effectively. His light version solo certainly reflected the difference between Waters' heavy drama and Gilmour's brighter choruses. Robert Wyatt did a tremendous effort on the night to do Waters' vocal.

Actually if you scan the lyrics in the cover of The Wall the whole thing flows as one giant song, until DG puts in his notable m oments. In a way this reflects the personalities I've read as Waters' unstoppable force coming up against DG's immovable rock.

But TDSOTM to Final Cut were essentially Waters ideas with the important arranging by Wright and Gilmour. Brain Damage / Eclipse revealed Waters' technique of shopping list lyrics which would really get heavier on Animals.

Given DG's ideas and desperation for lyrics (he even once asked waters for some help ... can't remeber where just at the moment... it may have been Momentary Lapse. waters told hiom to come up with his own. These albums without Waters probably would not have existed.

He may or may not be Pink, he may not be Pink Floyd but he is the closest to it performance wise.

As for sum of the parts? Indeed yes. Amused To Death would be a great Floyd album if it was including the others, instead...  well maybe I should re-buy the thing... just thought it was... a few tracks (God Wants) and then... Nowhere near as dull as Pros and Cons. (IMHO.)

Final Cut is a great example of comparing Waters as Pink with the others as Floyd, so to speak. A very brave a creditable album. Trouble is everyone gets lost in the uniform idea of a rock band identity.

Never happens with jazz and blues...

No, you didn't have it wrong... just some improvising upon a theme. Once comparisons between Roger's concerts as well as his Wall / PF The Wall it was a small step into which one's Pink for writing. No harm though.

Yep, Final Cut does have Mason and Gilmour as session players on their own album effectively. A huge change in sound is Michael Kamen's presence instead of Wright.

But as for reunion of touring... I think a former PF roadies posted a not likely (meaning no.) Still they could change their minds. It's just that touring ... well Roger likes the huge production, Gilmour does a version of that but might prefer a less bombastic stage presence.

Call it Pink Floyd and people have certain expectations and Roger delivers these expectations. The Roger-less PF did the same. But I knew a few who saw DG at the Festival Hall in 2002 who expected a more PF thing and did not get it. Npt me, I thought it was up close and personal and I loved it.

But production of recordings and touring are inseparable for Floyd. DG probably wants to avoid all the control freakery he used to get with Roger. But Rog needs Dave to make his grand schemes palatable.

So if a new tour, new arrangements? Which DG might like but nor RW,  or the full works which RW loves but DG sems less keen on these. Then there's what? new material? I think Roger likes people to listen (Saves on spittle!) and he quite likes relatively small arenas (10,000) or less which is not going to do the business for Pink Floyd - 20,000 plus and several nights in each.

Doesn't look likely. Maybe more charity events perhaps?

^ I doubt it will be Kansas City too... Hope it is though

The Truth wrote: ^ I doubt it will be Kansas City too... Hope it is though

My longshot would be Montreal because the 1977 went bad and Gilmour left the show cause he was unhappy+ I would bet Quebec province is the place where Pink Floyd sold the more album out of England in proportion

In my mind if he doesnt show up in Montreal it will be Europe.

Lucky it wasn't a cover of I Have been In You -(FZ.) Unless it's like the recent allegations (tongue in cheek of course) about Bob Dylan and the electronica beat (generation.)

I wonder if other forms of rock music have as much humour prevalent or are they all pretentious instead...

Back to the topic.

I wonder if anyone asked Nick Mason to play - on a Wall show... or all of them...

Funny thing about drummers btw. Bruford included - they seem to be rather readble writers.

Again back on topic... perhaps someone could suggest "nice part time earner on the side, cash job," and see if they can find the time for a spot of money...