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They're without suspicion a great Alternative-pop band but not much influenced by progressive scene nor influential upon other progressive rock bands (especially the latter is important methinks).

IMHO not fit for PA.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 13:58
IMHO, MMJ get alot of influences, from Pink Floyd to The Dead, also from that alternative country scene, and beyond. A perfect example of todays Prog Related, no question.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DamoXt7942 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 18:52
Originally posted by ko

IMHO, MMJ get alot of influences, from Pink Floyd to The Dead, also from that alternative country scene, and beyond. A perfect example of todays Prog Related, no question.
And, which younger progressive rock bands can they obviously influence upon, for example? Confused
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Never IMO in a month of Sundays.......Indie/Alternative , but very nice too.

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Originally posted by Chris S

Never IMO in a month of Sundays.......Indie/Alternative , but very nice too.
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Originally posted by DamoXt7942

Originally posted by ko

IMHO, MMJ get alot of influences, from Pink Floyd to The Dead, also from that alternative country scene, and beyond. A perfect example of todays Prog Related, no question.
And, which younger progressive rock bands can they obviously influence upon, for example? Confused
I respect your opinion. Ok, sometimes it is hard to make a line beetwen "alternative" or "indie" and Prog (and Prog Related especialy!). I dont understood your question, though.Confused  Why should any Prog Related act ought to be influential to younger progressive rock artists? Personally, i dont think so. Pretty un-logical, in my opinion. I concerned that a Prog Related act ought to recieve some Prog influences. Thats not Proto Prog from 60s, what ought to be influential to younger progressive rock artists from 70's to 00's. I didn't sugested MMJ for Proto Prog, what they surely couldn't be.

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Fantastic band, one of the finest American bands around today. I don't think they have enough prog elements for inclusion but Off the Record does have that lengthy jam with the mellotron which has a very 70s prog sound. Pink Floyd certainly have some influence on them but I dunno about any other prog bands. My Morning Jacket have a very retro sound rooted in everything from classic rock to new wave, though they still have their own sound.



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Please KO, Indie/Alternative is not Prog or Prog Related, despite who influenced them.
 
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They don't really sound like any other indie/alt rock band though. Indie/alternative like prog is a very vague term and it's not impossible for the two to overlap, especially because both share some of the same ideals.

And after all there are a few bands listed here such as The Decemberists, Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Mogwai who are associated with the indie movement.
 
I don't think My Morning Jacket should be added but they don't really sound like any other indie/alternative band band, their primary alt rock influences are Radiohead, Flaming Lips and Mercury Rev. Radiohead is already in the archive as crossover prog and the other two belong there as well, I believe.
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Originally posted by boo boo

And after all there are a few bands listed here such as The Decemberists, Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Mogwai who are associated with the indie movement.
 
I don't think My Morning Jacket should be added but they don't really sound like any other indie/alternative band band, their primary alt rock influences are Radiohead, Flaming Lips and Mercury Rev. Radiohead is already in the archive as crossover prog and the other two belong there as well, I believe.
 
Radiohead has a lot of alternative components appart from Prog.
 
 
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Well Radiohead are one of those bands who are straight up impossible to shoehorn into a single category especially considering how drastic their evolution has been.
 
It's true that Radiohead aren't really that fond of progressive rock outside of Floyd, electronic prog and krautrock. But like many prog bands they have strong jazz, classical and avant garde influences and incorporate a surprising amount of the prog elements listed in this site's "definition of progressive rock music" page.
 
Pablo honey is straight up alternative rock. The Bends is still rooted in the alt rock sound of Nirvana, REM and Pixies but it also introduces some of the proggier elements that the band would continue to experiment with. OK Computer is their real crossover album between their early sound and their later work. KID A, Amnesiac and HTTT don't sound like any alternative rock band I've ever heard and they're all extremely progressive. In Rainbows is somewhat of a back to basics with a more stripped down guitar based sound, though the odd time signatures and ethereal atmosphere remains intact. Are they a straight up prog band? No, they aren't straight up anything. But they certainly deserve to be listed as crossover prog.
 
As for Flaming Lips, they have also been through quite an evolution in their 27 year career. They started out as a punk band, then a noise rock band, then a psychedelic alternative rock band and now they're a band with more similarities to psychedelia and prog than alternative rock. Pink Floyd, Brian Eno, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Hawkwind, Can and The Moody Blues are all influences. So they have quite a lot of prog influences and it shows from Zaireeka and onwards. FL for crossover prog is something I could see.


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MMJ did do a number of great covers of the songs originaly made by very different artists from very different a genres of popular music. I know that MMJ will not be added in PR category - end of disscusion - but this is really worthy to hear :

 
Erykah Badu cover
 
The Velvet Underground cover
 
The Who cover (live with Eddie Vedder)
 
 
 
 
EDIT: Those awesome Jefferson Airplane and Elton John covers, I posted above.


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Originally posted by boo boo

 
(...) As for Flaming Lips, they have also been through quite an evolution in their 27 year career. They started out as a punk band, then a noise rock band, then a psychedelic alternative rock band and now they're a band with more similarities to psychedelia and prog than alternative rock. Pink Floyd, Brian Eno, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Hawkwind, Can and The Moody Blues are all influences. (...)
101% agreed with you regarding FL.
 
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I have heard few songs of MMJ..
which is the best album to start with?
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I have heard few songs of MMJ..
which is the best album to start with?
i think Z is probably the best starting point
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