Beatles Prog?

Progist wrote: SergiUriah wrote: Progist wrote: Malve87 wrote: Progist wrote: To be honest, Sgt Pepper is still mostly a pop album,  Yes, but there's that little thing called "A day in the life" which...you know... Yeah I know. As I said there are a couple of tracks, but the album is generally poppy 4/4 simple tunes stuff. When I'm 64, A Little Help, Lovely Rita etc. A Day In The Life achieves what it does mainly through production technique. I'm still not sure I would cal it Prog? Certainly not in intent anyway. I do not believe Sgt Peppers is a poppy album, neither Beatles were a pop band. A day in the life is clearly a Prog tune. You must try again. LOL, if I must then I will have another try at A Day In The Life I don't really accept that the Beatles weren't a pop band? Listen to their first 5 albums!

Rock - Pop better. 

himtroy wrote: I think people give Sgt Pepper way too much credit.  There was much crazier music going on at the time.  Piper at the Gates of Dawn was recorded in the same studio on the same dates.  And Piper is miles beyond Sgt Peppers in terms of progressiveness, psychedelia, originality, and in my opinion quality.

Sgt. Peppers is so highly regarded because it is a pop album, but it flows basically seamlessly. It also incorperates a load of difference influences and styles.

I think they made popular the term Rock, nothing more.

Venn Diagrams rule. Just sayin'.

The T wrote:   SergiUriah wrote: Sgt. Peppers was the first album to mix symphonyc with rock.  Your definition of "symphonic" needs to be revised it seems... A few strings here and there don't make something symphonic.

The T wrote: SergiUriah wrote: The T wrote:   SergiUriah wrote: Sgt. Peppers was the first album to mix symphonyc with rock.  Your definition of "symphonic" needs to be revised it seems... A few strings here and there don't make something symphonic. Ok, then Sgt Peppers ia not a symphonic rock album...excuse me for my audacity. You are excused.  It is not.

SergiUriah wrote: Progist wrote: SergiUriah wrote: Progist wrote: Malve87 wrote: Progist wrote: To be honest, Sgt Pepper is still mostly a pop album,  Yes, but there's that little thing called "A day in the life" which...you know... Yeah I know. As I said there are a couple of tracks, but the album is generally poppy 4/4 simple tunes stuff. When I'm 64, A Little Help, Lovely Rita etc. A Day In The Life achieves what it does mainly through production technique. I'm still not sure I would cal it Prog? Certainly not in intent anyway. I do not believe Sgt Peppers is a poppy album, neither Beatles were a pop band. A day in the life is clearly a Prog tune. You must try again. LOL, if I must then I will have another try at A Day In The Life I don't really accept that the Beatles weren't a pop band? Listen to their first 5 albums! There is more 50´s rock there than pop I think. What do you believe? What´s pop for you?

I think that the first 2 0r 3 albums have covers of older music that influenced the Beatles, this includes 50's R&R, & soul. Also tracks written by The Beatles, which are more pop orientated. Help & With The Beatles & Rubber Soul are pretty much pop albums. The first experimentation comes on Revolver, which is still predominantly pop, as is Sgt. Pepper. Yes, there are some tracks on those 2 albums that could be described as Proto-Prog, or symphonic (loosely speaking). After that, the music becomes more what I would call Art-Rock for a couple of albums, back to basic rock - blues-rock for Let It Be and back to pop (with a symphonic element) for Abbey Road. Obviously, these are only my opinions, and not a universal truth.

It would take a long time to explain what I think Pop means, as it involves a lot more than just music. Maybe I will have a go one day? Not now though

This is stupid. The Beatles were too many things. Let's just say "Rock" (no-matter pop or symphonic or progressive), leave this here and walk away. 

Also they have invented heavy metal! (listen: helter skelter)