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Posted: July 27 2011 at 13:36
Dean wrote:
1. everything off the first four albums - Country Life has some quite "Canterbury" moments.
2. Ferry, Manzanera, Mackay, Eno and Thompson. Though Jobson, Gustafson and Wetton helped.
3. it was because they were so radically different and excessive, melding Art Rock with glam and prog in equal amounts that looked nostalgically futuristic and futuristiclly nostalgic.
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Posted: January 13 2012 at 11:21
Hi everybody!
1. If there is something 2. Beauty Queen (much underrated) 3. Sunset (very moody and also much underrated) 4. 2 HB 5. For Your Pleasure 6. Mother of Pearl 7. Amazona 8. In every Dream Home a Heartache 9. Prairie Rose 10. Editions of You
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 22:45
As always with me, hard to narrow it down, but here's my top ten:
Pyjamarama (version from “Viva!”) If There Is Something (ditto) Editions of You Psalm Three and Nine Out of the Blue Mother of Pearl Same Old Scene Take a Chance With Me Serenade
Honorable mentions:
The Bogus Man Re-Make/Re-Model Manifesto Oh Yeah Sentimental Fool
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 01:01
1.
"Ladytron"
"For Your Pleasure"
"In Every Dream Home A Heartache" = "Re-Make/Re-Model" = "Virginia Plain"
"Do The Strand"
"Out Of The Blue" = "Sentimental Fool"
"Both Ends Burning"
"2 H. B."
And I've only heard two of their albums in their entirety. Shucks. This may change.
2. The experimentation, Phil's guitar work, production, Ferry's gift for songwriting, ability to create atmospheres.
3. They had nothing novel to offer to art/prog-pop-rock ... other than the idea for an image (maybe), the unique brand of lyric-writing, and the idea of croon rock.
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 03:10
Oh gawd, this is difficult.............
I used to have all their albums to Avalon but trimmed down years ago.
Now : Ladytron
If There Is Something (Viva ! Live version)
The Bob (Medley)
The Bogus Man
Out Of The Blue
but there are others : Editions Of You
Sentimental Fool
Both Ends Burning
Manifesto
Stronger Through The Years
The band took a very left-field approach to their arranging, creating a rather bizarre and unique style and sound. Roxy possessed some fantastic musicians - esp. Eno and Manzanera. Other greats like John Wetton and Eddie Jobson also performed with them. They also looked weird.
As far as their influence - maybe showing that you can experiment wildly within the confines of 'pop' music. I thus don't consider them as a full-blown Prog band, though they sure sounded like one on the live 'Viva !'
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 22:37
valravennz wrote:
Dean wrote:
1. everything off the first four albums - Country Life has some quite "Canterbury" moments.
2. Ferry, Manzanera, Mackay, Eno and Thompson. Though Jobson, Gustafson and Wetton helped.
3. it was because they were so radically different and excessive, melding Art Rock with glam and prog in equal amounts that looked nostalgically futuristic and futuristiclly nostalgic.
Well said Dean and I have to go "ditto" to your comments
Ditto to your ditto......imo the first 5 lp's are all good with Country Life and or Siren being my personal favorite(s).
All good musicians and the only problem imo is that Ferry always wanted to turn the band into a pop group doing back up for him. They had the potential for going into a much proggier direction.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 19:56
^ I have it, and it’s quite good though it may be a little poppy for some, with instrumental versions of End of the World and The Long and Winding Road, but his sax work is tasty as always.
I heartily agree with those who think “Viva!” was one of the best live albums ever and that the band was at their proggiest there.
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 20:31
AreYouHuman wrote:
^ I have it, and it’s quite good though it may be a little poppy for some, with instrumental versions of End of the World and The Long and Winding Road, but his sax work is tasty as always.
I heartily agree with those who think “Viva!” was one of the best live albums ever and that the band was at their proggiest there.
Regarding 'Viva!' - I notice it was recorded at 3 locations, and lists 4 bassists (Wetton, Gustafson, Wills & Maida). They must've taken on whoever was available on the night ?? Hard to tell who plays on what tracks. Excellent track-list all the way - it should've been a double-LP. This features the quintessential version of 'If There Is Something'. I just go bonkers when the song breaks down after Jobson's spot to Ferry's Wurlitzer jamming with Thompson's groove. Simple chord progression, sooo prog .
Andy's album has an incredible guest-list, I wish I had've bought a copy when I saw them often, many moons ago.
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 20:41
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 01:31
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 03:28
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
Yes, well, Lockheed whips Leif any day of the week. Viv Stanshall is a total comedian on the record, and the band members truly rock. I miss Calvert .
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 04:32
Tom Ozric wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
Yes, well, Lockheed whips Leif any day of the week. Viv Stanshall is a total comedian on the record, and the band members truly rock. I miss Calvert .
It's been a while since I've heard either album but from what I remember Luck Leif is a parody of several styles of american popular music (which is pretty much the epotome of everything I personally dislike in music) - if rap and hip-hop had been around in 1974 I'm sure that Captain Bob would have included that too. I would not call it a travesty in the way that Mackay's take on Wagner is, musical parody is a one trick pony with no lasting appeal, The Valkyries is not a parody, it's simply a horrible version. At the time Luck Lief reminded me of the Bonzos use of archaic musical styles for comedy effect rather than musical exploration, which is why Lockheed & the Starfighters is musically more satisfying for me, though the concept and storyline of both albums is typical Captain Bob brilliance. That they lead on to Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music and Quark, Strangeness and Charm is enough for me.
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 05:08
Tom Ozric wrote:
^.......not forgetting that ENO was involved on both ........
Which brings us to the radical style changes between Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World that culminate in the rather magnificent Before and After Science (and here I am deliberately ignoring the whole ambient music thing and sticking to his vocal albums). Here Come the Warm Jets strikes me as being an angry and somewhat spite-filled album triggered by his departure from Roxy Music (thinking specifically of Blank Frank and Dead Finks).
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 05:18
Dean wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
^.......not forgetting that ENO was involved on both ........
Which brings us to the radical style changes between Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World that culminate in the rather magnificent Before and After Science (and here I am deliberately ignoring the whole ambient music thing and sticking to his vocal albums). Here Come the Warm Jets strikes me as being an angry and somewhat spite-filled album triggered by his departure from Roxy Music (thinking specifically of Blank Frank and Dead Finks).
All great albums (ignoring the ambient thing for sure). And is that a calliope on 'Put A Straw Under Baby' ??.............I saw a guy playing one of those on the steamboat 'Natchez' when I was in New Orleans last year. Unique instrument. I'm sure it's near the end of Crimso's 'In The Court...' track....
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