Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Italian Prog Appreciation den
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

The Italian Prog Appreciation den

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 329330331332333 358>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
 Rating: Topic Rating: 1 Votes, Average 5.00  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Andrea Cortese View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 05 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 4411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andrea Cortese Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 14:33
This is my personal translation of Insolita Parte di Me, 2nd track from Il Tempio delle Clessidre's album...

I'm certainly not the best translator around here ... Embarrassedeh eh heheh so, please, be kind ... aha hah ah


IL TEMPIO DELLE CLESSIDRE                                       THE TEMPLE OF HOURGLASSES

 

INSOLITA PARTE DI ME                                                    UNUSUAL PART OF ME

 

Falce di luna, insolita parte di me,                                 Sickle moon, unusual part of me,

la strada buia precipita nella realtà,                             the dark road suddenly falls into reality,

singolo volo di un’anima in lotta quaggiù,                   single flight of a soul fighting downhere,

tengo il respiro per quello che non è già più.              I hold my breath for what there is no more.

 

Cerchi ripetuti in modo alternato                                    Repeated alternate circles,

gocce d’assenzio per un mondo ritrovato                    absinth’s drops for a recovered world

sta aspettando me, ora aspetta me,                              which is waiting for me, now waits for me,

con la vaga percezione di quello che non c’è.              with vague perception of what there is not.

 

Come se la mente corresse con la luce                        As if mind was running with light

supero il presente, m’inoltro nell’ignoto,                       I cross the present (time), I enter the unknown,

tutto ciò che trovo è filtrato dall’inganno                       all I find is filtered by deception

di un’intelligenza ambigua e misurata.                          of an ambiguous and measured intelligence.

 

Senza guardare mai inizio a raccontare                        Without even looking around I start to tell

quel che negli occhi altrui riesco a vedere                    what I manage to see in other people’s eyes;

ma l’incomprensione s’impadronisce di me                 but misunderstanding takes possession of me

tutto svanisce in sguardi spenti e nulla più.                  all vanishes in dull looks and nothing more.

 

Così tutti i miei sforzi non mi hanno fatto sapere          So all my efforts haven’t let me know

mentre avrei voluto solo stare ad aspettare                  while I only would have liked to stay and wait

perché chi non vive non può essere felice,                     because who doesn’t live can’t be happy,

s’allontana invano dall’umana condizione,                     drifts aways in vain from the human condition,

spinto da una malsana fame della mente                       driven by mind’s unwholesome hunger

a filosofeggiare, perso nel suo centro.                            to philosophize, lost in his own center.




Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 03 2011 at 15:58
Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:46
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

What kind of prog are you looking for.....there is a wide range of styles out there.

i am opening my mind to anything here whether it's jazz fusion, symphonic, crossover, prog metal or whatever else there might be


OK, I'll ponder that for a spell....its always so hard to whittle down suggestions

Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

When it comes to traditional RPI, there is a good case for claiming that the best RPI was released post '89. Check out that Tempio Delle Clessidre video I posted one page ago. Other bands is Castello Di Atlante, Deliriums newest album, Conqueror, Hostsonaten, Three Monks, Calliope, Finisterre, Randone, RanestRane, Ubi Maior and some I have forgotten. 

In short; RPI is like the Ferrari and their F1 team:  Both a great history and a great presence.  




Ummmm, with all respect to my esteemed colleague.....there is great new stuff out there.....but the classic period is still the primo eargasm IMHO.  WinkTongue


Edited by Finnforest - January 01 2011 at 12:45

Back to Top
topographicbroadways View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 20 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 5575
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote topographicbroadways Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:38
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

What kind of prog are you looking for.....there is a wide range of styles out there.

i am opening my mind to anything here whether it's jazz fusion, symphonic, crossover, prog metal or whatever else there might be
Back to Top
topographicbroadways View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 20 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 5575
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote topographicbroadways Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:35
the video you posted on the other page is pretty much why i'm asking and i'm trying to abandon my prejudice for thing after 1977
Back to Top
toroddfuglesteg View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
Retired

Joined: March 04 2008
Location: Retirement Home
Status: Offline
Points: 3658
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toroddfuglesteg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:22

When it comes to traditional RPI, there is a good case for claiming that the best RPI was released post '89. Check out that Tempio Delle Clessidre video I posted one page ago. Other bands is Castello Di Atlante, Deliriums newest album, Conqueror, Hostsonaten, Three Monks, Calliope, Finisterre, Randone, RanestRane, Ubi Maior and some I have forgotten. 

In short; RPI is like the Ferrari and their F1 team:  Both a great history and a great presence.  

Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:12
There are some good 90s bands but I think the 00s bands are even better. 

What kind of prog are you looking for.....there is a wide range of styles out there.

Back to Top
topographicbroadways View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 20 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 5575
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote topographicbroadways Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:36
is there any post-70's RPI bands people would recommend? 
maybe something from the 90's since i have heard some 80's but not checked out anything, to quote PA's favourite phrase "post-89"  
Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:35
Happy New Year to RPI fanatics everywhere!  May 2011 see the continuation of the current resurgence of Italian progressive rockBig smile

To some of our lurkers, feel free to pop in and tell us about your favorite RPI discoveries! 

Back to Top
seventhsojourn View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: December 11 2009
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 4006
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seventhsojourn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:18
^ Felice Anno Nuovo! Beer
Back to Top
American Khatru View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2009
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 732
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote American Khatru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 08:03
Buon Anno!!!

to all my fellow RPI lovers!

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

Back to Top
m2thek View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer


Joined: November 12 2009
Location: NY
Status: Offline
Points: 220
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote m2thek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 17:31
I read it a couple days ago =)
Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 16:26
M2, please note there is an interview with this band in our interview section.  It may not get into translation, but you might enjoy it anyway.  Smile

Back to Top
m2thek View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer


Joined: November 12 2009
Location: NY
Status: Offline
Points: 220
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote m2thek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 16:24
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

I can't translate for you.  But I asked myself why that band name looked familiar.  Finally looked at some of my RPI albums.  Ah, ... the closing section of MUSEO ROSENBACH's great track Zarathustra is named "Il Tempio delle Clessidre". 

A little Babel Fish later, and a trip to my Oxford Italian mini-dictionary: the phrase means "The Temple of the Hourglasses" (far as I know, "delle" is plural, but maybe some other rule of grammar should be in play - forgive my ignorance).  Nice.  I wonder if they named themselves for the classic act's song-section, or if it's a phrase that appears elsewhere in Italian culture (a poem perhaps?), or if this is just some kind of coincidence.

You probably already figured all that out.  But as far as a translation of more than that, sorry, no can do m2thek.
Yeah, I've already translated the song titles, but thanks =)
 
The singer of ITDC is the same from Museo Resenbach, but I don't know why they picked that exact track for their name.
Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 15:05
Nice review IvanClap

 A.D. 2010 - La buona novella (Opera apocrifa da La buona novella di Fabrizio De Andrè) by PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI album cover Studio Album, 2010
A.D. 2010 - La buona novella (Opera apocrifa da La buona novella di Fabrizio De Andrè)
Premiata Forneria Marconi Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Symphonic Prog Specialist

5 stars Strong candidate for the best album of 2010

A few months ago I found about the release of "2010 AD - La Buona Novella", a Prog Opera by PFM based in the conceptual album composed by Fabrizio de Andre in 1970 and performed by him and PFM. "La Buona Novella" a musical version of an apocryphal Gospel which confers the same importance to the Divine and human nature of Christ, reason why it was not well received in a Catholic country as Italy.

In 2010, Premiata Formería Marconi hasn't only resurrected the album to make a cover version of it, but make a new release, modifying all the arrangements and adding complete songs and new sections to the tracks, for this reason is a new album completely different to the original.

As we know, PFM had to face two problems, the legendary keyboardist "Flavio Premoli" had to leave the band due for health reasons that go back to 2005, but his place is covered by "Gianluca Tagliavini" (who has been playing with the band since 2006), and does an excellent job.

The second problem I find relies in the vocals, "Franz di Cioccio" takes the lead and strangely not even "Franco Mussida" sings, and being that Franz range is very raspy, becomes an acquired taste, but after a few minutes the listener gets used being that "Di Cioccio" puts the soul in all his performances.

"2010 AD" begins with "Universo e Terra" (Universe and Earth), a very elaborate prelude written by PFM not only to introduce the listener into the concept, but also to recreate the sound of 1970 (The Hammond organ is delightful), with Franco Mussida making an amazing work in the guitars.

"L'infanzia di Maria" (The Childhood of Mary) is an incredibly beautiful song where "Lucio Fabbri) gives a fantastic violin performance that blends perfectly with the nostalgic lyrics sung by "Di Cioccio", a strong beginning with an extra section added by PFM called "La Tentazioni" (The Temptation), written by PFM.

"Il Ritorno di Giuseppe" (Joseph's Return) is much more dramatic than the previous song, even when they don't loose their fascination for a strong melody, again PFM adds a new section called "Il Respiro del Deserto (The breath of the Desert) to the already excellent original work.

"Il Sogno di Maria" (Mary's Dream) surprised me, because I expected a more oneiric and dreamy song, but instead the band presents a folksy tune based in "Di Cioccio's" vocals and the acoustic guitars by "Mussida" and apparently by "Fabbri".

"Ave Maria" is a chance for "Franco Mussida" to demonstrate his skills with the electric guitar, well supported by "Di Cioccio" and Patrick Djivas" in the drums and bass. Again PFM gives priority to the melody rather than to complexity, but this doesn't affect the Prog nature of the album and track. PF adds a new section called "Aria per Maria" (Aria for Mary).

"Maria Nella Bottega di un Falegname" (Mary in a Carpenter's Workshop) is simply fantastic, the instrumental sections with flute, violin percussion and synthesizers are simply breathtaking, the most elaborate track of the album at this point. Again "Mussida, Djivas and Di Cioccio" ad a new section to "De Andre's" work called "Rumori di Bottega" (Rumours from a Workshop).

"Via de la Croce" (The Route of the Cross) starts with a narration supposedly made by Pontius Pilate and when the singing section starts seems that at last "Franco Mussida" has taken the lead vocals (not sure though) and of course we can expect an absolutely dramatic song due to the nature of the lyrics. Again PFM added a new section called " Scintille di Pena" (Sparks of Sadness).

"Tre Madri" (Three Mothers) is a very sad song that reflects the pain of the mother of a crucified son, the arrangements are just perfect mixing Blues based Rock with some Classical and Italian ethnic influences, the touch of the crying violin by "Fabbri" are heartbreaking. As usual PFM added a new section called "Canto delle Madri" (Chant of the Mother), amazingly beautiful and radical changes around the fourth minute with a killer drumming and violin.

"Laudate Hominem" (Praise to the Man) is a song that Fabrizio de Andre made from his perspective of Christ as the first revolutionary, to honour his human essence. PFM decided to close the album with an incredibly complex and elaborate song and added a new section called "Oda all'Uomo" (Ode to the Man) wit specially radical arrangements.

After reading the previous review I can't do anything else than respectfully disagree, in my opinion 2010 AD - La Buona Novella" is a perfect masterpiece, well composed and with even better arrangements than the original album by "Fabrizio de Andre", I would be dishonest with myself if I didn't rated this magnificent album with less than five solid stars.




Edited by Finnforest - December 31 2010 at 15:06

Back to Top
Finnforest View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 03 2007
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 16913
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 13:20
I am certain Andrea P will get into song meanings when he reviews, he always provides that insight for we English speakers.

If you can't wait though, just find the band on Myspace or Facebook, they are a very kind bunch of folks who will be happy to answer questions I'm sure.  Smile

Back to Top
American Khatru View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2009
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 732
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote American Khatru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 13:07
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Me too would like to find a translation........ 

But let me use this as a bad, very bad excuse to post a   f a n t a s t i c  song from that album. Listen, marvel and just fall down on the floor in joy. Enough said.

  

Wow, just got off the floor.  Mmmmmmmm that's good prog.  I love this thread!

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

Back to Top
American Khatru View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2009
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 732
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote American Khatru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 13:06
I can't translate for you.  But I asked myself why that band name looked familiar.  Finally looked at some of my RPI albums.  Ah, ... the closing section of MUSEO ROSENBACH's great track Zarathustra is named "Il Tempio delle Clessidre". 

A little Babel Fish later, and a trip to my Oxford Italian mini-dictionary: the phrase means "The Temple of the Hourglasses" (far as I know, "delle" is plural, but maybe some other rule of grammar should be in play - forgive my ignorance).  Nice.  I wonder if they named themselves for the classic act's song-section, or if it's a phrase that appears elsewhere in Italian culture (a poem perhaps?), or if this is just some kind of coincidence.

You probably already figured all that out.  But as far as a translation of more than that, sorry, no can do m2thek.

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

Back to Top
Andrea Cortese View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 05 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 4411
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andrea Cortese Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 12:03
^^^

...sooner or later one of the italians here will post both lyrics and translation... probably fellow andrea is already working on it... ehe he h eh
Back to Top
toroddfuglesteg View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
Retired

Joined: March 04 2008
Location: Retirement Home
Status: Offline
Points: 3658
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toroddfuglesteg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2010 at 11:47

Me too would like to find a translation........ 

But let me use this as a bad, very bad excuse to post a   f a n t a s t i c  song from that album. Listen, marvel and just fall down on the floor in joy. Enough said.

  

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 329330331332333 358>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.926 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.