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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2005 at 23:02
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Haha, I know. Now people can see what a real discussion is like, rather than, "If you like Dream Theater, you're gay!"

Well rather than jumping threads lets stay here...I'll start...Dream Theater suck the big one!

No, they don't, you're the one who sucks!!!!!1111

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 08:54
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Neither, if I had to be honest.

His comedic material is more or less a joke.

In that case he's a comedian!

How about Genious comedian musician?

Yeah, I'll agree with that. :)

....Just us two posting on this whole site it seems! Hey someone else have a go!

Zappas intelect was above us all, even mine....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 08:59
Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Neither, if I had to be honest.

His comedic material is more or less a joke.

In that case he's a comedian!

How about Genious comedian musician?

Yeah, I'll agree with that. :)

....Just us two posting on this whole site it seems! Hey someone else have a go!

Zappas intelect was above us all, even mine....

 

Zappa's intellect is still above yours

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:22
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Neither, if I had to be honest.

His comedic material is more or less a joke.

In that case he's a comedian!

How about Genious comedian musician?

Yeah, I'll agree with that. :)

....Just us two posting on this whole site it seems! Hey someone else have a go!

Zappas intelect was above us all, even mine....

 

Zappa's intellect is still above yours

That's what I ment. Same to you

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:24

 

A GENIUS

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:48

Genius & comedian!!

 

 a very talented man.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:48
Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

Haha, I know. Now people can see what a real discussion is like, rather than, "If you like Dream Theater, you're gay!"

Well rather than jumping threads lets stay here...I'll start...Dream Theater suck the big one!

No, they don't, you're the one who sucks!!!!!1111

I guess you didn't understand I was joking!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:21

Zappa is one of the musicans that used modern classical music influences like Busoni, Respighi and perhaps Boulez. His final attempt "Yellow sharks" are confirming his adherence to classical music patterns. He is a serious person for me. - What I like the most of Zappa is his ability to create musical theatre in his songs. Listen to: "Joe's Garage Part one". His wet t-shirt night is pure theatre without a real stage. It's radio. - His cruel sarcasm appeals to me in "Andy" and "Florentine pogan" (Album : "one size fits all", which I guess is his most contentive album) or his sexism in "Apostrophe" and "Joe's garage". - And then I like his musical abilities as a composer in tracks like "Inka roads" (One size..) His guitar solo on this track is outstanding. No one on earth would play it like this. It's like talking on a guitar. And all his co-musicians on nearly all his records are little geniusses as well: Eddi Jobson, Colajuta etc.

Frank ZAPPA has made the musical field so much funnier and richer that we should thank him for that. His short live is a little bit sad.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by jorim jorim wrote:

Zappa is one of the musicans that used modern classical music influences like Busoni, Respighi and perhaps Boulez.

Perhaps Boulez? Boulez is the champion of Twentieth Century music - without him we might not have pieces by Schoenberg, Webern et al in the orchestral repertoire at all!

His final attempt "Yellow sharks" are confirming his adherence to classical music patterns. He is a serious person for me. - What I like the most of Zappa is his ability to create musical theatre in his songs. Listen to: "Joe's Garage Part one". His wet t-shirt night is pure theatre without a real stage. It's radio. - His cruel sarcasm appeals to me in "Andy" and "Florentine pogan" (Album : "one size fits all", which I guess is his most contentive album) or his sexism in "Apostrophe" and "Joe's garage". - And then I like his musical abilities as a composer in tracks like "Inka roads" (One size..) His guitar solo on this track is outstanding. No one on earth would play it like this. It's like talking on a guitar. And all his co-musicians on nearly all his records are little geniusses as well: Eddi Jobson, Colajuta etc.

 

Not forgetting the immensely talented Steve Vai, who probably could play that solo - after all, that's pretty much how he got the gig originally, by playing Frank better than Frank...

Frank ZAPPA has made the musical field so much funnier and richer that we should thank him for that. His short live is a little bit sad.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2005 at 03:11
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Apart from Grand Wazoo, Hot Ratz, Sheik Yerbouti & Zoot Alore, can anyone reccomend some good Zappa albums which are musically consistent throughout??


Two from the early 1970s which always go well together and are consistent in their content and quality are "Overnite Sensation" and "One Size Fits All"; the humour is there, of course, but the arrangements are all top notch (especially with musicians such as Jean Luc Ponty, Ian Underwood, Napoleon Murphy Brock and George Duke involved).

These are two definite 'must haves'.

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