Invisible Touch poll!

genbanks wrote: Sorry I did not see what you said above. Anyway for the poll I chose The Last Domino

No problem. I probably should have stayed true to the band's intent and not split the two, but it is what it is.

genbanks wrote: Absolutely agree with that. I love all eras too, but  not prefer once over the other. Just like all by the same way. In my opinion there is not Gabriel, Collins or Wilson eras. Just only one Banks-Rutherford era. Both two (specially Banks) are the true Genesis support.

I especially agree with Banks being the one consistent support (I like to think of him as the "anchor") to the Genesis sound throughout the years.  No matter what technology he has in front of him there is something so distinctively him in the notes he plays.


Edited by catfood03 - August 24 2010 at 20:41

WalterDigsTunes wrote: I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. And yet, I place The Brazilian above the rest of the record.

I think we can safely say now that The Brazilian is the favorite track. Despite splitting the Domino track into two parts, which totally combined, comes in second place.

Tonight is a more synth oriented In the Air tonight rip-off, but a good one nonetheless. I don't see the point of dividing "Dominoes" into two parts, would you also divide "Supper's Ready"? "Dominoes" is supposed to be one whole song, despite the name sub-name division. It's second part is definitely more edgy, though. Phil uses his voice really efficiently (he's seems almost emotionally attached to the what he's singing).

Why is that instrumentals get votes just because their instrumentals? The electro-percussive background, reminding a bit of Bruford's drumming? Hmm... maybe this track isn't so bad after all. The outro guitar is really good, unlike any other Rutherford riff. But the keyboard melodies make no Goddamn sense and the synths are set to "utmost cheesy", and... is there even any bass line in this piece? If so, it's really well hidden beneath synth-layers. So unfortunately, due to the lack of a solid melodic background the overall feeling of "The Brazillian" fades into synth-pop obscurity saved only by the bell (and by the bell I mean "drums and guitar riffs"). Alas, my vote goes for the second part of Dominoes.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: The Brazilian, an excellent instrumental (The fact we don't haveto listen Collin's monotone and flat voice is a plus)   So..The Brazilian...The rest is silence.   Iván

I suspect that some who are voting are people who despise the 80's Collins material and who would give any instrumental track top choice because of being vocal-free.

So is The Brazillian winning because it's instrumental?  I like it alright but not as my favorite track.


Edited by catfood03 - August 29 2010 at 12:30

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: catfood03 wrote: I suspect that some who are voting are people who despise the 80's Collins material and who would give any instrumental track top choice because of being vocal-free. So is The Brazillian winning because it's instrumental?  I like it alright but not as my favorite track.   I didn't said that Catfood.   I said: I like The Brazilian because it's an excellent track, very atmospheric and with a powerful sound. Not having to listen Phil Collins is a plus, As a fact I like many tracks with Collins at the vocals, despite I find his voice very flat. Iván

I said "I suspect that some who are voting..." I wasn't intending to mean that your vote per se fell into this category. I did use your quote to ellaborate on my thinking so the offense was understandable.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: The Brazilian, an excellent instrumental (The fact we don't haveto listen Collin's monotone and flat voice is a plus)   So..The Brazilian...The rest is silence.   Iván

I would say 'You can't hurry love' is the single worst thing Collins ever committed to tape. It's neither big, clever or funny.

Unlike 'Easy Lover' which I quite liked!

I think the reason why the Brazilian is polling so well is that as Genesis veered off into commercialism the instrumentals were the only bones they threw out to their old prog fans.  And I do give them credit for tossing those to us.

Slartibartfast wrote: I think the reason why the Brazilian is polling so well is that as Genesis veered off into commercialism the instrumentals were the only bones they threw out to their old prog fans.  And I do give them credit for tossing those to us.

  So Domino is a commercial track? With 11 minutes long? I can find more prog elements in Domino than in the Brazilian. The commercial side not neccesarily means bad or not prog. Many people hate things because they are commercial and not because its quality. I think that this kind of thinking lacks of objectivity.