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The Quiet One
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Topic: Pastorius VS Clarke Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:14 |
Ok, two bass giants from the jazz/fusion world, who do you prefer?
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SaltyJon
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:25 |
By about 10^29 parsecs.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:27 |
For those of you who don't measure distance in parsecs: 10^29 parsecs= 3.08568025 × 1045 meters
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:28 |
None is a particularly favorite of mine, but it has to be Jaco. Stanley's solos are almost pure show-off with no sense of emotion or direction, though he has some fantastic bass lines.
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:33 |
Oh, and for those of you who don't deal with meters either, that distance is 3.57142857 × 1018times the diameter of the observable universe. I like Clarke, but he's not quite as good as Jaco.
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:33 |
It is felt that it has a lot of bang-up jobs if it thinks about the history of an activity each other. WR and RTF are contained.
And, I will go to Jaco by thinking about the content of Solo album each other.
It is felt that the performance of Jaco in "Shadows and Light" of Joni Mitchell projects especially.
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:35 |
Clarke is fine, but Pastorius, though erratic, was more innovative. My collection would be missing something if I didn't have stuff of both to enjoy.
Edited by Slartibartfast - September 08 2010 at 19:37
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 19:49 |
Both of them overplay, I'll vote for Stanley, better songwriter and technically the better bassist, but The best bass player is the one and only Bootzilla, absolutely no one can play it like Bootsy, and so many still try.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:17 |
Clarke for me,i just love his style.
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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:31 |
Stanley Clarke
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 00:00 |
I prefer Jaco, but I can't say he's the better of the two. I can't say that about Stanley either. They are both the best (and Bootsy too)!
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 00:57 |
Stanley Clarke for his bass and double-bass work. I have a yen to listen to Pharoah Sanders' Black Unity right now which features Cecil McBee and Stanley Clarke on basses.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 02:38 |
Easy Money wrote:
Both of them overplay, I'll vote for Stanley, better songwriter and technically the better bassist, but The best bass player is the one and only Bootzilla, absolutely no one can play it like Bootsy, and so many still try. |
Yup, if the possibility of voting neither existed, I'd go for that one...
Both overdo it, (as does Chris Squire), but Jaco is often over the edge (both physically, figuratively and litteraly)
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 06:38 |
Two great players. I was lucky enough to see Stanley Clarke live on a couple of occasions, so I vote for him. He was amazing to watch and listen to.
Jaco was also amazing, but never got to see him.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 08:16 |
They are both awesome and I can't really decide who I like better, but as a bassist, Jaco is better, IMO. Though I enjoy Clarke's solo works very much.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 09:04 |
Jaco, hands down.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 15:42 |
Jaco Pastorius but I do really like Stanley's double bass work.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 16:19 |
Logan wrote:
Stanley Clarke for his bass and double-bass work. I have a yen to listen to Pharoah Sanders' Black Unity right now which features Cecil McBee and Stanley Clarke on basses. |
It's a great, great album! That is if you like the "hippie" jazz style of Pharoah on albums as Karma and Thembi.
And yes, I've seen Stanley with Ponty and Meola, and his double-bass work is really ferocious.
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 17:14 |
I'll go with Clarke in this poll. Pastorious was the better bass guitarist and was stunning, for a few years at least, in the context of fusion. Clarke is a mighty exponent on the bass guitar but is also a superb double bassist (which is really his 'natural' instrument) who is equally at home in an acoustic jazz setting or in fusion. He also understands when to play quietly, or not at all, when he's on double bass.
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Logan
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 20:00 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Logan wrote:
Stanley Clarke for his bass and double-bass work. I have a yen to listen to Pharoah Sanders' Black Unity right now which features Cecil McBee and Stanley Clarke on basses. |
It's a great, great album! That is if you like the "hippie" jazz style of Pharoah on albums as Karma and Thembi.
And yes, I've seen Stanley with Ponty and Meola, and his double-bass work is really ferocious. |
I love those Pharoah Sanders' albums, and Black Unity is indeed great!
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