Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
Mushroom Sword
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 28 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 426
|
Topic: What Music Genre is the opposite of Prog Rock? Posted: October 04 2010 at 18:34 |
? Rap? Hip hop? Soul? Like, what would you consider to be the exact opposite of progressive rock? Either in terms of sound, or, to me as a musician, the randomness, atonality, and lack of something that makes you want to dance (which i love) the opposite would be, "Tik Tok". Ugh...
Your opinions?
|
 |
Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group
Site Admin
Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 38687
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 18:39 |
Regressive rock, or as I like to say, gorP. Or for a used "genre", Retro Rock.
Edited by Logan - October 04 2010 at 18:42
|
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
|
 |
darkshade
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 18:54 |
i would say hip-hop, but i realize in GOOD hip-hop, they use poly-rhythms, odd times (occasionally),
and Dactylic hexameter honestly, the opposite would be something by the likes of Katy Perry or something like that
|
|
 |
Mushroom Sword
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 28 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 426
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 18:59 |
darkshade wrote:
i would say hip-hop, but i realize in GOOD hip-hop, they use poly-rhythms, odd times (occasionally),
and Dactylic hexameter honestly, the opposite would be something by the likes of Katy Perry or something like that
|
Yeah i'd say that... But! "I Kissed a girl" sounds like they stole the rhythm of "I kissed a-" from Cygnus X-1: Book 2. And her band also did like a 30 second cover of that song which is really weird cause that's one of Rush's proggiest songs.
|
 |
thellama73
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: May 29 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8368
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:00 |
My first impulse is to say Folk music. It's usually one guy, with one instrument, playing three chords with an AAAAAAAA...(etc) form. The exact antithesis to the complexity and virtuosity of prog. I know that Prog-Folk is a genre, so I'm sure people will disagree with me. But that's my opinion.
|
|
 |
Textbook
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:06 |
I'd say pub rock.
|
 |
The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:12 |
Regressive water?
|
|
 |
Mushroom Sword
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 28 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 426
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:16 |
The T wrote:
Regressive water? |
This man wins the internets. Plan your days accordingly people.
|
 |
darkshade
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:23 |
thellama73 wrote:
My first impulse is to say Folk music. It's usually one guy, with one instrument, playing three chords with an AAAAAAAA...(etc) form. The exact antithesis to the complexity and virtuosity of prog. I know that Prog-Folk is a genre, so I'm sure people will disagree with me. But that's my opinion.
|
first thing i thought of was folk music too
|
|
 |
benimaru_nika
Forum Newbie
Joined: August 03 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 19:36 |
Reageaton??
|
 |
tuxon
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 21 2004
Location: plugged-in
Status: Offline
Points: 5502
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:18 |
progressive rock I guess
|
I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
|
 |
The Truth
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 19 2009
Location: Kansas
Status: Offline
Points: 21795
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:20 |
Alot of people would mistakingly say punk when that's not true... In fact proto-punk almost equals proto-prog at times.
|
|
 |
Stughalf
Forum Newbie
Joined: July 20 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:27 |
thellama73 wrote:
My first impulse is to say Folk music. It's usually one guy, with one instrument, playing three chords with an AAAAAAAA...(etc) form. The exact antithesis to the complexity and virtuosity of prog. I know that Prog-Folk is a genre, so I'm sure people will disagree with me. But that's my opinion. |
Not all pure folk fits that description. I'd say the Incredible String Band is a pure folk outfit as it eschews drums or electric instrumentation. Yet the ISB fashioned complex, layered music and suite-like pieces. The harmonies of folk groups are often very complex and sophisticated as well. There is a lot of simple folk music out there, but folk is not necessarily simple at all. And lots of 'folks' like prog and folk- like me.
I'd say the opposite of prog rock would be something very primitive indeed, perhaps some percussive music from a tribe in Africa or something. Certainly not anything with any relation to rock music or its derivatives like funk/soul (from which hip-hop has definite roots). Bottom line: the question is foolish, as there can be no true opposite for something as multifaceted as a genre of music. I've heard folks characterize Dream Theater and Caravan as being opposites based on the wildly different moods they inspire/convey, but both of these bands fall under the prog rock banner.
|
 |
CloseToTheMoon
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 28 2010
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 223
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:32 |
Without a doubt, punk rock. I had this argument with a punk guy when I was in school. In it's purist form, punk is regressive to the simplest, 3 chord rock & roll. I'm not talking about hardcore, or pop punk or proto-whatever.
Basic beats. Basic patterns. Unimaginative lyrics. That's the opposite of being progressive. I'm not knocking punk, I like to throw in some Ramones or Buzzcocks once in a wile. But it's true. Most punk bands started only to spite the "dinosaur rock" of prog.
|
It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.
|
 |
Textbook
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 08 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 3281
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:44 |
You are knocking punk when you say "unimaginative lyrics". It also suggests you haven't really listened to punk as a big part of the point was that these types of lyrics had never really been sung before so they were anything but unimaginative. Try The Dead Kennedys or Minor Threat for a start off.
And seriously, it's pub rock, end of discussion. Folk and punk and hip-hop require some degree of inventiveness to be considered good/great. With pub rock as in Status Quo or AC/DC it's sort of the POINT that you not do anything interesting.
|
 |
darkshade
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 20:53 |
i shouldve said this before, but what about....
modern-day rock music????
|
|
 |
moebius
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 16 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 160
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 21:15 |
Retro prog rock, AKA bands that sound now like other bands sounded 30 years ago and call themselves progressive.
|
 |
RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 07 2008
Location: Somewhere
Status: Offline
Points: 1072
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 21:32 |
Seriously you got to think.
Pop Music (20th Century) >Pop/Rock >>>>Rock >>>>>>>>Prog
Alright? Hip hop is in there too so remember that.
Now:
Folk Music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>20th Century Folk (sometimes and especially later Pop) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prior Folk (close to pop or very similar) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Traditional Music (often not poppy) Historical Pop Music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pop Music (20th Century) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>.>>Pop Music (other periods [think showtunes]) Historical Classical/Formal Music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Classical/Formal Music (20th Century) Experimental Music (Mainly 20th Century)
Okay? As we all know here Prog is actually somewhat formulaically closer to classical and experimental (like Musique Concrete) than alot of pop, but they are all still quite close. This covers much of historical music, except folk and traditional. Truly, it seems that traditional music like hymns lacks the most of what Prog offers, has many other elements which it lacks (even the lyrics are often refrained and simple) and includes weird stuff like chants.
Overall, traditional music is the opposite of Prog, which is an incredibly modern synthesis of all that music has ever had to offer beyond traditional music. Other genres of pop have elements, but just not as full as Prog, which is the vanguard of pop music.
==============
Thanks, ROY
|
 |
Dellinger
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12858
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 21:36 |
What about Trova? That's some latin music, I think mainly from Cuba, but I'm in no way an expert in that kind of music. It's very basic, just one guy singing and playing acoustic guitar, that's all. He doesn't even have to be a particularly good singer nor guitar player, but it's lyrics are suposed to be somewhat good, I guess Bob Dylan stile? I don't really know. As a matter of fact, Trova is not so very bad, but it can get somewhat boring. I don't really care too much about it.
|
 |
darkshade
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: November 19 2005
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 10964
|
Posted: October 04 2010 at 21:40 |
the concept of this thread = fail
|
|
 |
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.