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    Posted: March 30 2011 at 05:53
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by cloviskoba cloviskoba wrote:

Caravanserai.
This album Oneness, Silver Dreams Golden Reality is a masterpiece!


I haven't listened to it recently, but i find it a little cold.

and you have also the 72' "Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles Live" which is not bad with an excellent long piece if i remember well.

         yes! good album, you gave me an idea , gonna give it one more spin
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Originally posted by cloviskoba cloviskoba wrote:

Caravanserai.
This album Oneness, Silver Dreams Golden Reality is a masterpiece!


I haven't listened to it recently, but i find it a little cold.

and you have also the 72' "Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles Live" which is not bad with an excellent long piece if i remember well.

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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

I like Borboletta but there are some low points...mostly in the typical "songs".
 
Thus, I vote for the clear winner of this poll. 
 
That's hitting the nail dead on its headClap
 
Indeed, not only are there some "songs" that are sung (a tad too much for my liking), but I'm not that much a fan of Patillo's voice  >>> well it's good enough, but compared to Gregg Rollie's on the early Santana, it pales...
 
 
 
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This is the most difficult poll I have ever voted in on PA. I love both albums but the tipper for me is "Mirage" from Borboletta Cool
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

^not sure if a masterpiece, but definitely an interesting album to check out. I still haven't give it enough spins, but it has some fine moments.
Nothing is a masterpiece, but this one is a really good album.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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^not sure if a masterpiece, but definitely an interesting album to check out. I still haven't give it enough spins, but it has some fine moments.
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Caravanserai.

This album Oneness, Silver Dreams Golden Reality is a masterpiece!
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Caravanserai.
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I like Borboletta but there are some low points...mostly in the typical "songs".
 
Thus, I vote for the clear winner of this poll. 
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Points: 2585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 18:38
of course i knew caravanserail was about to win but i wanted to get the light on borboletta , and i still think it could have been kind of fantastic double album, in a way Embarrassed
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 18:34
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Zowie Ziggy wrote in his review for Caravanserai "The opener "Eternal Caravan of Reincarnation" is not a fave of mine ("Singing Winds, Crying Beasts", the Abraxas opener was already pretty much similar). I wonder who decided to have this one as an opener...The start is mysterious, with sounds (supposedly) coming out of the desert but the quite slow and jazzy pace never lifts off. One of the two poorest Caranvanserai track without any doubt."

I, on the other hand, love it and think it one of the best. To each his or her own, and that kind of jazz really appeals to me. Excellent opener. Caravanserai for me.
 
I really like that opener as well, it's part of the whole flow of Caravanserai, an album that shouldn't be listened seperating tracks, IMO. Unlike Abraxas, which doesn't have a natural flow, typically of a rock album.
Plus, 'Eternal Caravan of Reincarnation' has a double bass, right? It sounds so cool, not something you're used to in a Santana album. (surely influenced by Garrisons' A Love Supreme bass lines)
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^ yea, this poll is kind of embarrassing, and i really like Borboletta, but i also had to vote Caravanserai
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I agree that Borboletta is the "little brother" of Caravanserai, and that's why I find it rather "dumb" to put both agaisnt each other. (no offense) I mean, the result is obvious.
 
You could have done something like this, which would probably have more interesting results:
 
Caravanserai and Borboletta VS Santana and Abraxas (or some other pairing)
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

What's funny for me is that Santana got played at the house a lot in my late teens as both my Mom and Brother were big fans.  I didn't get to know these two albums until fairly recently.  Moonflower got worn out though.  I like them both but I'm going to have to get on the caravanserai
   hey! so i could be your brother slarti, how old is he?LOL Big smile

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Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

I see what you mean about pairing the two. 
 
Caravanserai gets my vote.  It is my favourite Santana album and one of my favourites of all albums. 
    i know it's out the poll but looking at your avatar , can't keep from telling you that i'm about to see TYA in a little venue at 30 km from home on next thursday, ( without alvin yes but......)   and i'm realy glad because i've got the whole collectionSmile Wink

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i agree with all of you, caravanserail is a masterpiece, i'll never forget the first time i heard the opening at the time it's been released. what we used to call pop music still was a fantastic alchemy, anyway the few votes borboletta got turned me happy,if you get a while try a new listening, just in case........LOL  sean trane is just right ,the caravan little brother with more singing Smile
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Points: 2585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 16:47
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Abraxas.Wink
  your teachers probably had a few problems with you LOL didn't they?Smile
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Hi,
 
I have to listen to the other album again ... but I can tell you that I love listening to Caravanserai for the first 20 minutes non-stop and it is lovely!
 
It's just too bad that he is chasing girls much more than he is the music ... but that is another story and not a progressive one, at that!


Edited by moshkito - March 29 2011 at 16:21
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Caravanserai is my favorite Santana album by a long way! I also love the opening, it sounds great on a good system with the lights off.

Edited by 33rpm - March 29 2011 at 14:20
Vinyl just sounds better!!

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Zowie Ziggy wrote in his review for Caravanserai "The opener "Eternal Caravan of Reincarnation" is not a fave of mine ("Singing Winds, Crying Beasts", the Abraxas opener was already pretty much similar). I wonder who decided to have this one as an opener...The start is mysterious, with sounds (supposedly) coming out of the desert but the quite slow and jazzy pace never lifts off. One of the two poorest Caranvanserai track without any doubt."

I, on the other hand, love it and think it one of the best. To each his or her own, and that kind of jazz really appeals to me. Excellent opener. Caravanserai for me.


Edited by Logan - March 29 2011 at 13:16
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