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Points: 11415 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 12:56
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Points: 32767 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:00
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

But the release date of "Sea Shanties" by High Tide was earlier, as far as I remember.

We are talking Prog here.

"Sea Shanties" happens to be prog; High Tide is a prog band.and not prog-related.


You don't consider this to be prog, Ian?
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:06
Ummagumma
 
Then Renaissance by Renaissance
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Points: 32767 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 13:10
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Ummagumma
 
Then Renaissance by Renaissance


If one were to use this timeline http://www.progressiverock.com/1969.php (which is what I based using Ummagumma as a possible next chronologically), then Joy of a Toy follows Ummagumma, and then Renaissance is next.


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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn? 


If, hypethetically, In the Court of the Crimson King, was the first Prog album (I don't belive it was), then for that to be the second might require some intense temporal dynamics.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Ummagumma
 
Then Renaissance by Renaissance


If one were to use this timeline http://www.progressiverock.com/1969.php (which is what I based using Ummagumma as a possible next chronologically), then Joy of a Toy follows Ummagumma, and then Renaissance is next.
This is undoubtably true - but since there were albums of a prog nature issued prior to ITCOTCK then we must assume we are cherrypicking from the chronology albums that could be shoe-horned into the Court shoes.
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I think Dog should create a PA system wide poll to figure this one out.........and let it run forever.
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Points: 23098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 14:02
^I´m especially looking forward to the look-a-like polls following this - like what was the 14th prog record or maybe the 23.
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Points: 41381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 14:07
what about VDGG's debut album? was it released before or after ITCOTCK?
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Points: 10261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 14:34
What about "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2?

Edited by BaldFriede - March 31 2011 at 14:34


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What about "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2?
Released before ITCOTCK... doesn't count. Wink
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What about "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2?
Released before ITCOTCK... doesn't count. Wink

Ah, I begin to see how it works. If an album is a prog album it is by definition later than ITCOTCK; it it happens to be earlier it doesn't count. You can't win against a myth.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What about "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2?
Released before ITCOTCK... doesn't count. Wink

Ah, I begin to see how it works. If an album is a prog album it is by definition later than ITCOTCK; it it happens to be earlier it doesn't count. You can't win against a myth.
That's the premise of the OP -  "If In The Court is the first Prog album......"  ... it's not about winning against the myth, but more about testing the hypothesis.Big smile
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Points: 10616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:07
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Ok, I thought it was an actual album and tried to figure out what the hell it was. LOL
 
Me too. But now it sounds like an early April Fool joke.
Oops... please forget what I said. I don't want to put ideas in peoples heads. Like to be tricked into a Genesis-reforming-with-Hackett-and-Gabriel kind of thread LOL
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Points: 23098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:12
^^ what´s wrong you guys - never heard of JUDPUDL?LOL
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Points: 10261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

What about "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2?
Released before ITCOTCK... doesn't count. Wink

Ah, I begin to see how it works. If an album is a prog album it is by definition later than ITCOTCK; it it happens to be earlier it doesn't count. You can't win against a myth.
That's the premise of the OP -  "If In The Court is the first Prog album......"  ... it's not about winning against the myth, but more about testing the hypothesis.Big smile

Ah, but from a wrong premise ANY conclusion may be drawn, and the whole statement still remains true, as any logician knows. So "If ITCOTCK is the first prog album then "Love Beach" by ELP is the best".


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Points: 10616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:39
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^^ what´s wrong you guys - never heard of JUDPUDL?LOL
 
Sure, Jumping Under Driving Peugeots Using Drivers Licenses by the Prog Sophomores, isn't it? LOL
 


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Points: 19952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:49
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^^ what´s wrong you guys - never heard of JUDPUDL?LOL


I love that album. I bought the 40th anniversary remaster box set when it came out.
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Points: 16191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Mmmm......Ummagumma??
 
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