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    Posted: July 01 2011 at 22:07
Peter Gabriel is now a 60-year-old musician whose albums have not only defined his life, but ours as well.  When Mr. Gabriel leaves this world (hopefully not for another 60 years) which album(s) below will you consider to be his legacy, and why?
  1.  Car
  2.  Scratch
  3.  Melt
  4.  Security
  5.  Plays Live
  6.  Birdy
  7.  So
  8.  Passion
  9.  Shaking the Tree
10.  Us
11.  Secret World Live
12.  Ovo
13.  Up
14.  Long Walk Home
15.  Hit
16.  Scratch My Back
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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2011 at 22:25
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2011 at 22:35
The lamb and Foxtrot and Selling England.....and and and....solo not close enough maybe IV
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So, easily. I find myself wanting to go back to that more often than anything Genesis did. A brilliant, literate pop record with a whirlwind of experiences, viewpoints, and emotions.

But I guess a lot of Genesis's stuff is influential, so whatever.
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2011 at 22:58
^ There was no band like them
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  1. The seven albums with Genesis (Including Live and FGTTR)
  2. Well, pretty much all his solo albums except OVO.
What else can we ask?

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

  1. The seven albums with Genesis (Including Live and FGTTR)
  2. Well, pretty much all his solo albums except OVO.
What else can we ask?

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That is a easy way to answer the question.
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More than a genius, one of a kind really, the Beatle that lived
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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2011 at 00:29
Good comments!

When I created this topic, I should have added some Genesis albums -- after all, when we think of Peter Gabriel, we think of Genesis.

I think Gabriel's legacy will definitely include the Genesis era.  Even after Gabriel's solo success with hits like Shock the Monkey, Sledgehammer, Steam, Biko, In Your Eyes, etc., I think he will be forever remembered for the Genesis classics.

As Gabriel mellows, so does his music.  The new stuff on 'Scratch My Back' sounds lovely but there are no drums or guitars.Unhappy   It'd be awesome if he went back to his prog rock roots in his next album.     
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I have to agree with Stonebeard on the unforgettable album "SO" because it contains so many different stories and styles --  Motown, world music, rock, and the sweet duet with Kate Bush.  'Red Rain' was inspired by Gabriel's recurring dream about swimming in a sea of red water.  'In Your Eyes' was the song blasting out of the famous boombox in the movie "Say Anything."
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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ There was no band like them

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Yeah, I have to agree that his tenure in Genesis will be remembered more than his solo stuff, at least in a long term view. Not to discredit his solo career (I love Melt) but they don't touch the creativity and success of the genesis.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

  1. The seven albums with Genesis (Including Live and FGTTR)
  2. Well, pretty much all his solo albums except OVO.
What else can we ask?

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That is a easy way to answer the question.
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

  1. The seven albums with Genesis (Including Live and FGTTR)
  2. Well, pretty much all his solo albums except OVO.
What else can we ask?

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But I like OVO! Shocked
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Yeah, I have to agree that his tenure in Genesis will be remembered more than his solo stuff, at least in a long term view. Not to discredit his solo career (I love Melt) but they don't touch the creativity and success of the genesis.

You really think so? Maybe by the few odd prog fans and a few Genesis fans that went back to listen to his work with the band but quite honestly after So came out and how popular he became I think there are legions of his fans who never even heard his albums with Genesis.  


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Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Yeah, I have to agree that his tenure in Genesis will be remembered more than his solo stuff, at least in a long term view. Not to discredit his solo career (I love Melt) but they don't touch the creativity and success of the genesis.

You really think so? Maybe by the few odd prog fans and a few Genesis fans that went back to listen to his work with the band but quite honestly after So came out and how popular he became I think there are legions of his fans who never even heard his albums with Genesis.  


So, IMO, would have persuaded a lot of those new fans to explore the Genesis legacy, in much the same way as Duke did.

Gabriel is a genius. II aside, his albums have been of an exceptionally high standard, truly progressive.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Yeah, I have to agree that his tenure in Genesis will be remembered more than his solo stuff, at least in a long term view. Not to discredit his solo career (I love Melt) but they don't touch the creativity and success of the genesis.

You really think so? Maybe by the few odd prog fans and a few Genesis fans that went back to listen to his work with the band but quite honestly after So came out and how popular he became I think there are legions of his fans who never even heard his albums with Genesis.  


So, IMO, would have persuaded a lot of those new fans to explore the Genesis legacy, in much the same way as Duke did.

Gabriel is a genius. II aside, his albums have been of an exceptionally high standard, truly progressive.
 
I tend to agree with Garion's view. I often wonder about folks here on this forum, living in their little progressive bubble and not looking at a larger musical perspective. Gabriel certainly achieved greater success and acclaim after leaving Genesis, and I believe that music listeners in general are far more acquainted with his solo works. The album So went 5x platinum in the U.S. and 3x platinum in the UK, outselling all of the original Genesis albums (up to The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway) combined. Yes, all six albums combined. And if commercial sales is not your preferred indicator for success, one only has to look at the innovative music videos Gabriel released in the 80s for the MTV generation (arguably some of the best videos ever produced for the time).
 
In addition to commercial success, as a solo artist Gabriel garnered critical acclaim, particularly for So, his debut release (Car), and his superb third album (Melt) which, in my estimation, is one of the ten best releases of the 80s. Not to mention his great soundtracks, particularly Passion: Music for The Last Temptation of Christ, and even his song from the Pixar animated Wall-E received an Oscar nomination.
 
Therefore, I think Gabriel's legacy lies outside of Genesis, and for individual effort I would point to the albums So or Melt as indicative of an excellent career. .
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2011 at 11:25

PG's solo work will be defined by So, sadly (and Passion will get a footnote as expressing his interest in world music. )  History can be cruel.
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