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cannon 
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 Topic: Abacab vs. Beat
Posted: July 12 2011 at 11:31 |
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KC. I don't mind Ababcab.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 18:49 |
 esky wrote:
Didn't even vote, Slart.' What a couple of albums that have no business being compared to each other. The deal here is that Discipline is this cold-hearted affair that showcases two outstanding guitar players and their ability to weave intricate fret work into rhythms of who knows what. Saw the show backing this album, and thank God for the oldies. Abacab, on the other hand, at least offered melodies and more variety in the music department. It's not perfect, it's a little poppy, but otherwise puts a good face forward for the band after the awkward, bombastic Puke. |
Fine fine fine don't vote. Beat is beating Abacab.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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criticdrummer94
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 16:42 |
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A minority but I'm choosing Abacab
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esky
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Posted: July 10 2011 at 21:10 |
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Oops! Saw that you were comparing Abacab to Beat. Silly me. I'll still take the former. Not a big fan of Belew's voice.
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esky
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Posted: July 10 2011 at 21:08 |
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Didn't even vote, Slart.' What a couple of albums that have no business being compared to each other. The deal here is that Discipline is this cold-hearted affair that showcases two outstanding guitar players and their ability to weave intricate fret work into rhythms of who knows what. Saw the show backing this album, and thank God for the oldies. Abacab, on the other hand, at least offered melodies and more variety in the music department. It's not perfect, it's a little poppy, but otherwise puts a good face forward for the band after the awkward, bombastic Puke.
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himtroy
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 17:45 |
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Though it isn't my absolutely favorite the 80's King Crimson has so much going on, gotta love it. Definitely that, I hate pop music and I never liked any Genesis.
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 17:43 |
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Abacab. By a long way.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 16:56 |
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Beat is far more interesting in my opinion, but neither of the two albums are particularly wonderful.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 16:15 |
Gandalff wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Beat is probably one of the worst Crimson albums |
In your opinion.
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Not only in my opinion, but according to majority of PA reviewers. However, it´s still a good album, unlike Abacab.
2.56 | 409 ratings | 111 reviews | 6% 5 stars
Good, but non-essential
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But the PA community says that Abacab is good (even when not essential) : you just pasted the proof yourself 
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Gandalff
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 15:02 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Beat is probably one of the worst Crimson albums |
In your opinion.
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Not only in my opinion, but according to majority of PA reviewers. However, it´s still a good album, unlike Abacab.
2.56 | 409 ratings | 111 reviews | 6% 5 stars
Good, but non-essential
2.89 | 325 ratings | 63 reviews | 9% 5 stars
Good, but non-essential |
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lazland
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:12 |
Gandalff wrote:
Beat is probably one of the worst Crimson albums, but still it´s Prog Rock. On the other hand, Abacab is pure Pop. No contest. |
No it is bloody well not (he says VERY stroppily).
Abacab.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 13:32 |
Maybe more of a playful track than a joke.
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 12:20 |
Abacab
Edited by Formentera Lady - July 07 2011 at 12:20
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 12:05 |
Gandalff wrote:
Beat is probably one of the worst Crimson albums |
In your opinion.
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akaBona
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 08:34 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
... Whodunnit... Always amuses me how people get their panties in a wad about the last one. It's a joke people, come on.
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Exactly! |
bad, failed joke?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 07:51 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
... Whodunnit... Always amuses me how people get their panties in a wad about the last one. It's a joke people, come on.
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Exactly!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 06:50 |
Looking at the tracks on each, Beat only had Heartbeat which was strictly geared to commercial audiences. The bulk of Abacab is. Sarah Jane, Keep It Dark, Dodo/Lurker, and yes Whodunnit, are the high points. Always amuses me how people get their panties in a wad about the last one. It's a joke people, come on.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 04:05 |
I admire '80's Crimson. I think they had a lot of artistic credibility. Still, Abacab gets my vote. I think Genesis was innovating too in those days, going to short, concise songs, and I think there are no bad compositions on the album at all. "Abacab", "Me And Sarah Jane" and "Keep It Dark" in particular stand out, but all the songs on the album are good.
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akaBona
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 03:23 |
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i don't rate Beat high but in all cases it's much much better than this poppy nonsence ...
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someone_else
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 02:54 |
I have never heard Beat and Abacab is a mediocre album full of songs that don't just make their mark. Two good reasons to keep away from voting...
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