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"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 18:14
Definitely Tarkus. And speaking of which, has anyone seen this girl who posts videos on You Tube. She's been working her way through the Emerson songbook and is incredible!
"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
Definitely Tarkus. And speaking of which, has anyone seen this girl who posts videos on You Tube. She's been working her way through the Emerson songbook and is incredible!
Yep, stumbled on this by accident (Check out her version of the Fugue from the middle of the Endless Enigma)
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 19:53
nahnite wrote:
"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
Well I don't fall asleep but I do find my mind wandering while listening....but then I snap out of it and come back to point.....
I actually listened to both the other day and yea, I pay more attention to 2112, but it could do with the fact that it has pauses between movements.
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 20:15
ExittheLemming wrote:
Yep, stumbled on this by accident (Check out her version of the Fugue from the middle of the Endless Enigma)
Amazing talent. Most of the Emerson copyists I've seen basically reproduce what he played, whereas she actually interprets it and adds something of her own. She does wonderful versions of the Piano Concerto and Five Bridges.
"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 23:46
Cactus Choir wrote:
Definitely Tarkus. And speaking of which, has anyone seen this girl who posts videos on You Tube. She's been working her way through the Emerson songbook and is incredible!
Very impressive!
Tarkus of course, one of Prog's most elaborated pieces, though not one of my faves.
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Posted: August 13 2011 at 03:28
Catcher10 wrote:
nahnite wrote:
"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
Well I don't fall asleep but I do find my mind wandering while listening....but then I snap out of it and come back to point.....
I actually listened to both the other day and yea, I pay more attention to 2112, but it could do with the fact that it has pauses between movements.
Tarkus is fairly disjointed. Started off as an instrumental peice that Greg Lake considered something that Emerson should be doing on a solo album not with ELP. But he relented and added lyrics as well as a few songs. The live versions 1973-74 showed that ELP tried to make it a more fluid peice. With 2112 you do have some great dramatic pauses which adds to it. Both are great really but its good that ELP are getting plaudits as they often ...ermm ...don't
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Posted: August 13 2011 at 08:41
Tarkus no doubt. The title track is their best song, and the second side isn't as bad as most make it out to be. Maybe 'Ready Eddie' at the end spoiled people's general impression of side B?
Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy.
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Posted: August 13 2011 at 15:50
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Tarkus no doubt. The title track is their best song, and the second side isn't as bad as most make it out to be. Maybe 'Ready Eddie' at the end spoiled people's general impression of side B?
The second side just sounds like a tacked on afterthought now. The reality is that the Tarkus suite was a bold 'progressive' statement that ELP at the time were not sure would be accepted or even liked. So they hedged their bets a bit with side two including shorter more rougher sounding tracks which explore a little bit of humour as well as serious theological issues.The best track for me on side two is A Time And A Place closely followed by Bitches Crystal. Both of those are respectable 4 star tracks but the 'humourous' tracks don't do them any favours while the lyrics on The Only Way come across as a bit naive and overly simpllistic. Side two is a bit messy and perhaps just showed a lack of confidence.
Both are very skilful, adventurous and brave attempts to present rock on a larger canvas. The only thing they have in common is running time and a thoroughly gauche and w.a.n.k.y hippy cosmiche storyline.
Voted for Tarkus, it ain't 'better' I just like it more.
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 00:58
richardh wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
nahnite wrote:
"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
Well I don't fall asleep but I do find my mind wandering while listening....but then I snap out of it and come back to point.....
I actually listened to both the other day and yea, I pay more attention to 2112, but it could do with the fact that it has pauses between movements.
Tarkus is fairly disjointed. Started off as an instrumental peice that Greg Lake considered something that Emerson should be doing on a solo album not with ELP. But he relented and added lyrics as well as a few songs. The live versions 1973-74 showed that ELP tried to make it a more fluid peice. With 2112 you do have some great dramatic pauses which adds to it. Both are great really but its good that ELP are getting plaudits as they often ...ermm ...don't
It's also interesting that they almost broke up as a band over this song
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 03:00
criticdrummer94 wrote:
richardh wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
nahnite wrote:
"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
Well I don't fall asleep but I do find my mind wandering while listening....but then I snap out of it and come back to point.....
I actually listened to both the other day and yea, I pay more attention to 2112, but it could do with the fact that it has pauses between movements.
Tarkus is fairly disjointed. Started off as an instrumental peice that Greg Lake considered something that Emerson should be doing on a solo album not with ELP. But he relented and added lyrics as well as a few songs. The live versions 1973-74 showed that ELP tried to make it a more fluid peice. With 2112 you do have some great dramatic pauses which adds to it. Both are great really but its good that ELP are getting plaudits as they often ...ermm ...don't
It's also interesting that they almost broke up as a band over this song
Yes indeed. Lake was very unhappy but I guess he had to accept it as he didn't have anything better
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 06:24
richardh wrote:
criticdrummer94 wrote:
richardh wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
nahnite wrote:
"2112" all the way for me. It was the start of their classic period, and each song seems to flow in a way that "Tarkus" (in my opinion) does not. Case in point: I fell asleep while listening to "Tarkus"; I never did with "2112".
Well I don't fall asleep but I do find my mind wandering while listening....but then I snap out of it and come back to point.....
I actually listened to both the other day and yea, I pay more attention to 2112, but it could do with the fact that it has pauses between movements.
Tarkus is fairly disjointed. Started off as an instrumental peice that Greg Lake considered something that Emerson should be doing on a solo album not with ELP. But he relented and added lyrics as well as a few songs. The live versions 1973-74 showed that ELP tried to make it a more fluid peice. With 2112 you do have some great dramatic pauses which adds to it. Both are great really but its good that ELP are getting plaudits as they often ...ermm ...don't
It's also interesting that they almost broke up as a band over this song
Yes indeed. Lake was very unhappy but I guess he had to accept it as he didn't have anything better
I wonder how much he added, or took away though, since he was the one who produced the album. I can easily imagine that Emerson's original composition would be enjoyable to extreme piano afficionados only.
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