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    Posted: November 19 2011 at 04:02
Originally posted by Henry Plainview

20+ year old bands aren't going as strong as they used to? Unthinkable! That really has nothing to do with the future of progressive music, which is fine.
Originally posted by dr prog

Strong rock music was as good as dead by 1983. Not interested in guitar 80s influenced crap of the 90s and 00s nor copy cats of 70s bands in the 90s and 00s Cool
 
Porcupine, Spock, Tool, Opeth, Dream theatre and all the rest are mainly crap imo

Nobody cares.


Dr Prog? I'd like to see those credentials.

Or I could haver said, "Should be struck off"
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Lovely bedside manner though
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LOL
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming

Lovely bedside manner though
 
Bedside manners are extra LOL


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We all get old and die, nothing remarkable about that. Even if the "third wave" is not yet dying, it will eventually.
 
The genre is still alive, there's quite a lot of good music being released every year, in fact so much that I can't follow it all up, there are many modern albums which based on what I have read I think I would like them, but I simply do not have the time or money to get them all.
 
Whether the music is being released by the first, second, third or fourth wave, who cares?
 
 
 
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I have no worries. There is still a shed load of music being produced out there.
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Originally posted by dr prog

Originally posted by ExittheLemming

Lovely bedside manner though
 
Bedside manners are extra LOL
 
I guess your prognosis is not very promising either?  Smile
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I don't know about the "third wave" because I haven't thought of the music in that sense, but I would hope that since the 90s enough new things had happened in music that the torch was still burning strong.

And based on the number of albums in my music collection from last year, which excludes anything by any bands you consider to be third wave but includes still > 60 prog albums, a lot of which were excellent and which was, beside the matter, still just scraping the barrel...

I'd say music, prog included, is alive and well. Whatever wave we are on.

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^Feel much the same as Gazz here.

Grails, Phideaux, Yugen, Discipline, Anglagård, Dungen, IQ, Electric Orange, Korekoyinjihn(I´ll never learn to spell that name!) and a heap of other artists are still dishing out interesting music, and the 3rd wave doesn´t really mean anything to me. I consider it more like throwing pebbles in a pond. Look at music as the ripples - ever expanding and multiplying. Like an eternal mosaic if you will. If one ever thinks the music has died or went away, then they are just looking in the wrong places. I´m still finding wonderful music from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and from looking at things - the 00s are just as productive and creative - the business side of things just isn´t. You won´t find any of this on a top of the pops radio show, but then again you never could....
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I don't think it's accurate to base broad statements on speculation over changes in a few bands.


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Originally posted by Eärendil

You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members.  Please don't post these.
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded.
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Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Eärendil

You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members.  Please don't post these.
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded.

I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

I have no worries. There is still a shed load of music being produced out there.

This - in spadesClap


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Originally posted by Eärendil


I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do.


Edited by Horizons - November 19 2011 at 12:38
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Originally posted by Eärendil

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Eärendil

You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members.  Please don't post these.
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded.

I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do.


I'm just tired of people going to threads on topics they have a problem with and posting rude comments in them.
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...I have only one CD in my collection, "Close to the Edge," and I just play it over, and over, and over, and over....

I guess I better give a call to Dr. Prog!!  
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Originally posted by darkshade

Originally posted by Eärendil

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Eärendil

You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members.  Please don't post these.
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded.

I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do.


I'm just tired of people going to threads on topics they have a problem with and posting rude comments in them.

I have to agree. Alarmist the OP may be, but calling him an idiot is just plain rude. And I should know.
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OP has mentioned that the Flower Kings are on hiatusbut in the meantime several related projects were released so they haven't retired.
Just my 2 cents.
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There's tonnes of great 70s prog I'm finding now.
 
In 2011 I found:
 
Zao
Greenslade
Grobschnitt
Samarai/Web
Banco
Hammill solo
Fields
Shylock
Matching mole
 
I'll be collecting for years. Even if I somehow ran out of bands(which i won't) I still wouldn't listen to post 1983 prog or dream theatre  Big smile
 
In 2010 I found:
 
Eloy
Magma
Gong
Oblivion express
Weidorje
Egg
Univers zero
 
In 2009 i found:
 
Caravan
Van der graaf
National health
Hatfield
Strawbs
UK
 
Before that:
 
Jethro tull
Camel
Gentle giant
Caravan
Genesis
Yes
Frank zappa
Rush
King crimson
Black sabbath
Deep purple
Led zeppelin
Cream
Hendrix
Doors
Elp
Pink floyd
Goblin
 
and so on Cool


 


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Good, I was missing Walter. 
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