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Snow Dog 
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 Posted: November 19 2011 at 04:02 |
 Henry Plainview wrote:
20+ year old bands aren't going as strong as they used to? Unthinkable! That really has nothing to do with the future of progressive music, which is fine.
dr prog wrote:
Strong rock music was as good as dead by 1983. Not
interested in guitar 80s influenced crap of the 90s and 00s nor copy
cats of 70s bands in the 90s and 00s 
Porcupine, Spock, Tool, Opeth, Dream theatre and all the rest are mainly crap imo |
Nobody cares.
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Dr Prog? I'd like to see those credentials.
Or I could haver said, "Should be struck off"
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 04:09 |
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Lovely bedside manner though
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 04:15 |
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dr prog
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 04:49 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Lovely bedside manner though |
Bedside manners are extra 
Edited by dr prog - November 19 2011 at 04:50
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Gerinski
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 06:44 |
We all get old and die, nothing remarkable about that. Even if the "third wave" is not yet dying, it will eventually.
The genre is still alive, there's quite a lot of good music being released every year, in fact so much that I can't follow it all up, there are many modern albums which based on what I have read I think I would like them, but I simply do not have the time or money to get them all.
Whether the music is being released by the first, second, third or fourth wave, who cares?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 06:48 |
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I have no worries. There is still a shed load of music being produced out there.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 06:56 |
dr prog wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Lovely bedside manner though |
Bedside manners are extra |
I guess your prognosis is not very promising either? 
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Help me I'm falling!
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 09:59 |
I don't know about the "third wave" because I haven't thought of the music in that sense, but I would hope that since the 90s enough new things had happened in music that the torch was still burning strong.
And based on the number of albums in my music collection from last year, which excludes anything by any bands you consider to be third wave but includes still > 60 prog albums, a lot of which were excellent and which was, beside the matter, still just scraping the barrel...
I'd say music, prog included, is alive and well. Whatever wave we are on.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 10:33 |
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^Feel much the same as Gazz here.
Grails, Phideaux, Yugen, Discipline, Anglagård, Dungen, IQ, Electric Orange, Korekoyinjihn(I´ll never learn to spell that name!) and a heap of other artists are still dishing out interesting music, and the 3rd wave doesn´t really mean anything to me. I consider it more like throwing pebbles in a pond. Look at music as the ripples - ever expanding and multiplying. Like an eternal mosaic if you will. If one ever thinks the music has died or went away, then they are just looking in the wrong places. I´m still finding wonderful music from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and from looking at things - the 00s are just as productive and creative - the business side of things just isn´t. You won´t find any of this on a top of the pops radio show, but then again you never could....
Music never dies!
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Earendil
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 10:34 |
I don't think it's accurate to base broad statements on speculation over changes in a few bands.
Edited by Eärendil - November 19 2011 at 19:47
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richardh
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 12:21 |
Eärendil wrote:
You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members. Please don't post these. |
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded.
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Earendil
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 12:34 |
richardh wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members. Please don't post these. |
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded. |
I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do.
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lazland
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 12:37 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I have no worries. There is still a shed load of music being produced out there. |
This - in spades 
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
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Horizons
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 12:38 |
Eärendil wrote:
I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do. |
Edited by Horizons - November 19 2011 at 12:38
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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darkshade
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 12:57 |
Eärendil wrote:
richardh wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members. Please don't post these. |
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded. |
I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do. |
I'm just tired of people going to threads on topics they have a problem with and posting rude comments in them.
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cstack3
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 13:45 |
...I have only one CD in my collection, "Close to the Edge," and I just play it over, and over, and over, and over....
I guess I better give a call to Dr. Prog!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 13:49 |
darkshade wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
richardh wrote:
Eärendil wrote:
You're an idiot to say this based on speculation from a few old bands changing members. Please don't post these. |
No he's not. He's just asking a question and people have responded. |
I'm just tired of pessimistic "doomsday" posts based on what a few popular prog bands do. |
I'm just tired of people going to threads on topics they have a problem with and posting rude comments in them.
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I have to agree. Alarmist the OP may be, but calling him an idiot is just plain rude. And I should know.
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unclemeat69
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 16:31 |
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OP has mentioned that the Flower Kings are on hiatusbut in the meantime several related projects were released so they haven't retired.
Just my 2 cents.
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Follow your bliss
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dr prog
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 16:56 |
There's tonnes of great 70s prog I'm finding now.
In 2011 I found:
Zao
Greenslade
Grobschnitt
Samarai/Web
Banco
Hammill solo
Fields
Shylock
Matching mole
I'll be collecting for years. Even if I somehow ran out of bands(which i won't) I still wouldn't listen to post 1983 prog or dream theatre 
In 2010 I found:
Eloy
Magma
Gong
Oblivion express
Weidorje
Egg
Univers zero
In 2009 i found:
Caravan
Van der graaf
National health
Hatfield
Strawbs
UK
Before that:
Jethro tull
Camel
Gentle giant
Caravan
Genesis
Yes
Frank zappa
Rush
King crimson
Black sabbath
Deep purple
Led zeppelin
Cream
Hendrix
Doors
Elp
Pink floyd
Goblin
and so on 
Edited by dr prog - November 19 2011 at 16:57
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 19 2011 at 16:59 |
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Good, I was missing Walter.
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