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Glimmung
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Topic: A Passion Play Vs. Minstrel in the Gallery Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:12 |
As much as I love Minstrel it doesnt do for me what A Passion Play does. I would really like to see where people stand on this. For me it took many more listens to get into Minstrel in the Gallery. On the surface it seemed like too much classic rock and not enough of the Tull that I love it wasnt untill many spins later that I found that Tull. There was something intriguing about A Passion Play I looked forward to putting in the work to love that album, there is an air of excitement around it.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:24 |
It took me it took longer than any other Tull album to get into Minstrel as well. Now it's one of my all time favorites . But I really dislike APP. It's where everything that made TAAB great was pushed too far and fell flat on its face. Also it has Hare, one of the greatest embarrassments to grace a classic prog album. But that's just the final nail in the coffin. The whole thing is a mess imho. It's my least favorite pre-A album. Oh and you forgot to make a poll.
Edited by The Miracle - December 15 2011 at 17:27
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:49 |
My two favorite Jethro Tull albums. I don't think I could choose.
The Miracle wrote:
Oh and you forgot to make a poll.
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PabstRibbon
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:49 |
PAssion Play is Tull greatest achievement
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Glimmung
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:53 |
Sorry about the no poll next time ill pay more attention
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:58 |
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Wanorak
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 19:24 |
Minstrel in the Gallery for me by far. I don't fing APP as good as TAAB. MInstrel is my favourite Tull album and seems to encapsulate all of Tull's different sounds on one album; folk to hard rock to symphonic.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 19:34 |
Minstrel in The Gallery by far.I was listening to it last Sunday and i forgot how heavy that opening track got.
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Heathcliffe
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 20:16 |
Minstrel for me. Passion Play is still a great album though.
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Progosopher
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 20:28 |
A Passion Play is probably Tull's most complex album and definitely a masterpiece. At the same time it is self-conscious about its unique qualities, which are quite strange. Minstrel in the Gallery is a bit more organic and authentic to me, and the one I generally prefer.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 21:07 |
I don't know why but The Menstrual In The Gallery always pops into my head for some reason.
I do like the different character of the two albums.
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Morningrise
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 21:15 |
A Passion Play has never really clicked on me.
On the other hand, Minstrel In The Gallery...
Their best offering next to Thick As A Brick if you ask me.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 21:17 |
Even though I quite like (nearly love) MITG, APP is too magical not to "vote" for.
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dr prog
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 22:29 |
1975 is tulls weakest year of the 70s
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Midnight Lightning
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 01:20 |
PabstRibbon wrote:
PAssion Play is Tull greatest achievement |
Or at least on par with Thick as a Brick, despite the two being so different.
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akaBona
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 01:56 |
PabstRibbon wrote:
PAssion Play is Tull greatest achievement |
jep
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someone_else
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 03:07 |
Minstrel in the Gallery is one of the best Tull albums. A Passion Play has a few fine moments, but the story of the Hare who lost his spectacles make me think he'd better lose his earphones as well.
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 04:47 |
dr prog wrote:
1975 is tulls weakest year of the 70s |
Sorry but1976 takes the cake as being the worst year for Tull in the 70s; 1976's "Too Old To RocknRoll Too Young to Die" was their worst output in the 70's by a country mile. "Minstrel in The Gallery" is a 4-5 star album while "Too Old To RocknRoll Too Young to Die" is 21/2 stars at best ....... IMHO. Oh and A Pasion Play is a masterpiece. Minstrel in very good but let's itself down in some parts such as "Black Satin Dancer" and the overated "Baker St Muse". But everything else is superb especially the title track....the instrumental middle bit is so far ahead of it time it's not funny. It's not funny; it's unbelievable. Still A Passion Play is a much much better prog album than Minstrel.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 04:54 |
A passion
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laplace
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Posted: December 16 2011 at 05:02 |
i absolutely love the Hare part, it's just so charming. and kind of feels more audacious consider how musically conservative the prog audience is turning out to be... how DARE they add something to their album which invokes my more precious feelings? plus the incidental music behind that little fable is incredibly well-done. i can't remember any of the songs that are on Minstrel anyway, lol
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