Modern prog without influence from the 70's

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: The_Jester wrote: Radiohead is a really great answer! And I didn't mean prog with no influences I meant with no influence of old prog. And any band who are influenced by modern prog are good answers too since it's not a direct link.

Influences of old prog was what got me into Radiohead in the first place.  I don't buy their denial.  Seriously.

MESHUGGAH!!! 

...oh wait, king crimson.

It's very hard answer this question, because there are ever any group reminding the old generation!

Godspeed You! Black Emperor? Maybe I haven't listened to a whole lot of Post-Rock, but I don't think there's that much 70's Prog influence in the music. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.  I'd actually love to hear a Post-Rock band with obvious and prominent 70's influences.

Edited by Fox On The Rocks - March 14 2012 at 23:14

Interesting point. That would make a very fascinating topic in itself.

Fox On The Rocks wrote: Godspeed You! Black Emperor? Maybe I haven't listened to a whole lot of Post-Rock, but I don't think there's that much 70's Prog influence in the music. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.  I'd actually love to hear a Post-Rock band with obvious and prominent 70's influences.

GY!BE are a mix of Glenn Branca and AshRa Tempel in what influences are concerned, so they're '70s based, just not on what could be called "classic prog".

moshkito wrote: You ought to take a look at the sub-divisions in jazz ... it's insane and sometimes I think it's really denigrading to the art form itself. It's almost like if it's played with this it's called this, but if it is played with that ... it's something else. (ie .. piano or synth!)

The irony is that when I suggest that stuff like Headhunters is already breaking away from the core of jazz, as it was in the 50s and 60s, people like to throw that quote about how you can never know what jazz is.  And yet, people know exactly what is jazz rock, third stream, etc etc.   Yes, all these subdivisions are fine as long as they don't make people too specific in their expectations from music but frequently, they do.  The other day, there were people arguing one shouldn't suggest Wire or Magazine as recommendations for a punk listener...because they are post punk.  Oh, what a grave mistake, that!   And it's become about these incremental changes and small details  rather than big change that takes your breath away.


Edited by rogerthat - March 18 2012 at 06:28

^ Post punk started in the 70s, which kinda gets forgotten because it peaked in the '80s. For example, GY!BE main influence, Glenn Branca did release his essential works in 1980 and 1981, but those came out of a development that took place in the late '70s, when he crossbred minimalism with post punk.

This is a good introductory read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Wave


Edited by harmonium.ro - March 18 2012 at 12:20

I see Sonic Youth as rather one of the first bands to be influenced by the core of no-wave pioneers instead of one of the pioneers that GY!BE would have looked up to. But I don't have enough info so it's possible that GY!BE might have picked up their influences through Sonic Youth. One thing that's sure is that SY changed quite a bit after their early days, losing the noise-rock harshness and the experimentalism and becoming more accessible. In this period they certainly influenced a good number of bands that we now consider progressive. One of the most striking cases is to me Motorpsycho, whose sound could be defined as Daydream Nation + classic prog. 

The answer is no