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King Manuel
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Topic: Top 5 bands from each era... Posted: May 04 2012 at 07:16 |
My greatest Bands:
Classic
1 Van der Graaf Generator
2. Genesis
3. Yes
4. Jethro Tull
5. Camel
Neo
1. Pallas
2. IQ
3. Arena
4. Galahad
5. Pendragon
Third Wave
1. Phideaux
2. Carptree
3. Spocks Beard
4. The Flower Kings
5. Dream Theater
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The-Winkler
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 04:15 |
These are my favourites...
Classic
1 Genesis
2.Van der Graaf Generator
3. Pink Floyd
4. Caravan
5. Camel
Neo
1, Marillion
2. Pallas
3. IQ
4. Anglagard
5. Pendragon
Third Wave
1. Porcupine Tree
2. Transatlantic
3. Opeth
4. Spocks Beard
5 Dream Theater
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JackBH
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 00:37 |
1. Gentle Giant 2. King Crimson 3. Genesis 4. PFM 5. Yes
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 20:23 |
1st 1. King Crimson 2. Genesis 3. Pink Floyd 4. Caravan 5. Van der Graaf Generator
2nd 1. Rush 2. Peter Gabriel 3. The Police ( ) 4. Iron Maiden 5. Marillion
3rd 1. The Mars Volta 2. Porcupine Tree 3. Kayo Dot 4. Riverside 5. Mastodon/The Tangent
Edited by Horizons - May 03 2012 at 20:25
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 20:16 |
Classic: 1. Genesis 2. Yes 3. Van Der Graaf Generator 4. Gentle Giant 5. King Crimson
Second Era: 1. Rush 2. Marillion 3. Steve Hackett 4. Peter Gabriel 5. IQ
Third Wave: 1. Porcupine Tree 2. The Mars Volta 3. Anglagard 4. Sigur Ros 5. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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PinkYesGongMachine
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 10:23 |
Classic
1. Pink Floyd
2. Yes
3. Gong
4. Soft Machine
5. Genesis
I don't listen to any Neo or much Third Wave except maybe RWPL and sparingly ... Dream Theater.
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JeanFrame
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Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:40 |
I would put Pink Floyd way ahead of Genesis or Jethro Tull
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Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:56 |
1st Yes Genesis Rush Pink Floyd ELP
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 21:36 |
infocat wrote:
Thinking Plague's first album is from 1984...
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Then back them up into Neo in place of Ozrics and add DAAU or Finnegans Wake.
It's only a bit of fun.
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 21:13 |
Hard to improve on the usual suspects for classic: 1.Genesis King Crimson Jethro Tull Yes ELP or Pink Floyd maybe a tie for me. The Neo period I just have a hard time seeing as a distinct period or a subgenre, Not if Spock's Beard or The Flower Kings aren't part of it. Not a gripe per se but just me. Marillion for sure for being the only group categorized as neo that I really know well. If you define neo as the '80's then Kate Bush, Fred Frith, Sky, XTC. I don't care if some of these aren't officially prog, too bad. Third wave being the '90's? Porcupine Tree, Tori Amos, Djam Karet, Radiohead, Happy Rhodes. So don't we need a fourth wave with the '00's? Gongzilla, Talisma, Explosions In The Sky, Phideaux, Knifeworld.
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 21:11 |
Thinking Plague's first album is from 1984...
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 20:25 |
Ok then, but only from my Avant leaning perspective.
Classic 1. Univers Zero 2. King Crimson 3. National Health 4. Henry Cow 5. Pink Floyd
Neo (though not very Neo) 1. 5uu's 2. Present 3. Anglagard 4. Shub Niggurath 5. Ozric Tentacles
Third Wave 1. Thinking Plague 2. Yugen 3. Aranis 4. Miriodor 5. Cheer-Accident
Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - January 31 2012 at 20:31
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 19:41 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
So what time periods are we talking about so I can have some idea how to answer this?
When did neo start? 1983 with Marillion's Script? Presumably that's when Classic ended?
When did the third wave start? 1995 with Spocks Beard & Flower Kings? |
that's kind of what i thought. i was just curious about what others thought as well. my prog mentor used to say it was common knowledge that the big 5 were yes, elp, kc, tull, genesis. i wondered how that would work in the other eras.
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 18:28 |
So what time periods are we talking about so I can have some idea how to answer this?
When did neo start? 1983 with Marillion's Script? Presumably that's when Classic ended?
When did the third wave start? 1995 with Spocks Beard & Flower Kings?
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 16:21 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Logan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
not necessarily you top five, but the top tier, big names of the classic era, neo era and third wave.
Classic1,Yes 2. Genesis 3. ELP 4. KC 5. JT (i'd actually put floyd and or rush in there, but they aren't the big names, maybe floyd.)
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Maybe Floyd? Floyd are/ were bigger than any band on your list. |
More
popular, but the most popular albums are not as quintessentially "Prog"
(as genre) as the other's classic popular in Prog circles releases to
me. It doesn't mean that, say, Dark Side of the Moon, can't be
described as Prog, but it's not something that I would have particularly
described as Prog when I was discovering Prog, unlike, say, Close to
the Edge (which I never much liked), Trilogy, or Thick as a Brick (to
use examples of ones I had heard decades ago).
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He asks for top tier bands...big names. Floyd
definitely qualify. He even says maybe he should put Floyd in there. But
comments maybe they aren't big enough. Hard to find any bigger I'd say. |
Fair enough, and didn't mean to dismiss your comment in adding my discussion point (I understood your point). It's just that I didn't think of Pink Floyd as as a quintessentially Prog band when it comes to the popular classic releases as the others he listed, and that's why I, personally, would choose the other classic ones he mentioned as top tier Prog bands (this is a Prog section) even if they are not nearly as popular outside of Prog circles. I supect that most people who own an album by Pink Floyd don't think of Pink Floyd as a Prog band, but I think it's more likely that someone who owns, say again, Close to the Edge, would consider Yes a Prog band (at least for their classic era). It's my personal perspective.
Edited by Logan - January 31 2012 at 16:30
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 16:01 |
Logan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
not necessarily you top five, but the top tier, big names of the classic era, neo era and third wave.
Classic1,Yes 2. Genesis 3. ELP 4. KC 5. JT (i'd actually put floyd and or rush in there, but they aren't the big names, maybe floyd.)
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Maybe Floyd? Floyd are/ were bigger than any band on your list. |
More popular, but the most popular albums are not as quintessentially "Prog" (as genre) as the other's classic popular in Prog circles releases to me. It doesn't mean that, say, Dark Side of the Moon, can't be described as Prog, but it's not something that I would have particularly described as Prog when I was discovering Prog, unlike, say, Close to the Edge (which I never much liked), Trilogy, or Thick as a Brick (to use examples of ones I had heard decades ago).
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He asks for top tier bands...big names. Floyd definitely qualify. He even says maybe he should put Floyd in there. But comments maybe they aren't big enough. Hard to find any bigger I'd say.
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:58 |
Snow Dog wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
not necessarily you top five, but the top tier, big names of the classic era, neo era and third wave.
Classic1,Yes 2. Genesis 3. ELP 4. KC 5. JT (i'd actually put floyd and or rush in there, but they aren't the big names, maybe floyd.)
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Maybe Floyd? Floyd are/ were bigger than any band on your list. |
More popular, but the most popular albums are not as quintessentially "Prog" (as genre) as the other's classic popular in Prog circles releases to me. It doesn't mean that, say, Dark Side of the Moon, can't be described as Prog, but it's not something that I would have particularly described as Prog when I was discovering Prog, unlike, say, Close to the Edge (which I never much liked), Trilogy, or Thick as a Brick (to use examples of ones I had heard decades ago).
Edited by Logan - January 31 2012 at 15:59
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:52 |
zumacraig wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
not necessarily you top five, but the top tier, big names of the classic era, neo era and third wave.
Classic1,Yes 2. Genesis 3. ELP 4. KC 5. JT (i'd actually put floyd and or rush in there, but they aren't the big names, maybe floyd.)
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Maybe Floyd? Floyd are/ were bigger than any band on your list. |
Right. I think the reason they never get listed is because the came out of psych/space rock...? |
I don't know what you mean by "listed".
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zumacraig
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 15:48 |
Snow Dog wrote:
zumacraig wrote:
not necessarily you top five, but the top tier, big names of the classic era, neo era and third wave.
Classic1,Yes 2. Genesis 3. ELP 4. KC 5. JT (i'd actually put floyd and or rush in there, but they aren't the big names, maybe floyd.)
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Maybe Floyd? Floyd are/ were bigger than any band on your list. |
Right. I think the reason they never get listed is because the came out of psych/space rock...?
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AdamC3046
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Posted: January 31 2012 at 11:51 |
Classic1, Pink Floyd 2. Yes 3. Genesis 4. King Crimson 5. ELO
Neo not a keen fan on neo-prog
Third Wave 1. Dream Theater 2. Porcupine Tree 3.Opeth 4. Transatlantic 5. Anathema
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